What Is the Initial Velocity Required for a Cannonball to Hit a Moving Target?

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The problem involves a cannon firing a projectile horizontally from a height of 99 m to hit a moving target, specifically a dog that is initially 1000 m away from the cliff and moving towards it at a constant speed of 9 m/s. The objective is to determine the initial velocity required for the cannonball to hit the dog as it reaches the cliff.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the equations of motion for both the cannonball and the dog, questioning the definitions of initial and final positions. There is an exploration of how to treat the projectile motion as two separate components: vertical and horizontal. Some participants express uncertainty about the equations used and the assumptions made regarding the motion of both objects.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants clarifying notations and the relationships between the positions of the cannonball and the dog. There is an acknowledgment of the need to ensure that both objects meet at the same point in time, and some guidance has been offered regarding the separation of vertical and horizontal motion.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the time calculated for the cannonball to reach the ground (4.49 s) and the need to consider the distance the dog travels during this time. Participants are also reflecting on the implications of the different initial positions of the cannonball and the dog.

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Homework Statement



A cannon which is at the top of a 99 m high cliff fires in a horizontal direction to a dog. The initial position of the dog is 1000 m from the cliff's base. What should be the initial velocity of the cannon if the dog is moving at constant speed of 9 m/s to the cliff.

Other given
square root of (198 m/9.8 m/s) = 4.49 s


Homework Equations



Yf = Yi + Vi(t) + (1/2)(gt^2)
Xf = Xi + Vi(t) + (1/2)(gt^2)

The Attempt at a Solution




For the y-component:

99 m = 0 + Vi(4.49 s) + (1/2)(-9.8 m/s^2)(4.49)^2
= Vi(4.49 s) -99.78 m - 99 m
= Vi(4.49 s) - 198.78 m

For the x-component:

0 m = 1000 m + (-9 m/s)(4.49 s) + (1/2)(-9.8 m/s^2)(4.5)^2
= 860.365 m

Then,

Xi - Xf + Vi(t) + (1/2)(gt^2) = Yi - Yf + Vi(t) + (1/2)(gt^2)
Vi(4.49 s) - 198.78 m = 860.365 m
Vi(4.49 s) = 860.365 + 198.78 m
Vi = 1059.145 m/4.49 s
Vi = 235.89 m/s

Can someone verify this? Thanks a lot.
 
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Could you explain what your notations mean? ehild
 
Yf = Yi + Vi(t) + (1/2)(gt^2)
Xf = Xi + Vi(t) + (1/2)(gt^2)

Yf = final position (y-axis)
Xf = final position (x-axis)
Vi = initial velocity
t = time
g = gravitational pull
 
Final and initial position of what? There are two moving things: the cannon ball and the dog. They start from different initial positions and they meet, so the final positions are the same for both of them. The ball accelerates downward, but the dog moves with constant velocity.

ehild
 
actually, I'm not sure about the equations that I used.
 
There are the Yi and Yf and Xi and Xf data for the ball, and xi and xf for the dog. As it moves on the ground, yi=yf=0. The position of both the ball and the dog are the same when the ball hits the dog, so Yf =0 and Xf=xf. You calculated the time needed to the ball to reach the ground, t=4.49 s. During that time the dog walked some distance, with constant velocity v= 9m/s towrds the cliff. So how far is it from the cliff when the ball hits the ground? The ball has to reach there at the same time as the dog.

You have to know that the motion of a projectile can be treated as two separate motions, one vertical with the downward acceleration -g, the other horizontal with constant velocity Vi. Instead of your equation, Xf=Xi +Vi t. But we measure the distance from the rock, so Xi=0, and Xf is the same as the distance of the dog from the cliff at time 4.49 s. Find Vi.

ehild
 

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