What is the integral over a hemisphere for a specific function?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a specific integral over a hemisphere involving a function of polar and azimuthal angles. Participants explore various substitution methods and transformations to simplify the integral, while also addressing challenges encountered during the integration process.

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  • One participant presents the integral to be evaluated and attempts to simplify it using a substitution for the polar angle.
  • Another participant suggests using the substitution \( t = \tan \frac{\phi}{2} \) to transform the integral into a rational form.
  • A participant expresses difficulty with the resulting integral after substitution, noting that it becomes complex and introduces square roots in the denominator.
  • There are discussions about using partial fractions to simplify the expression further, with one participant providing a specific factorization approach.
  • Another participant questions the derivation of a specific expression related to the factorization of the quartic polynomial, seeking clarification on the coefficients involved.
  • One participant mentions the potential use of complex variables and Cauchy's Theorem as an alternative method for solving the integral.
  • There is an acknowledgment of a missing factor in the integral, indicating ongoing refinement of the approach.
  • Participants discuss the challenges of expressing a quartic polynomial as a product of two second-order polynomials, noting the lack of uniqueness in the coefficients.

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Participants express differing views on the best method to evaluate the integral, with no consensus reached on a single approach or solution. The discussion remains unresolved as participants explore multiple techniques and transformations.

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There are unresolved mathematical steps and assumptions regarding the substitutions and transformations used in the integration process. The complexity of the resulting expressions varies significantly depending on the chosen method.

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Readers interested in advanced integral calculus, particularly those dealing with integrals over spherical coordinates and transformations, may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi,
I'm trying to evaluate this integral over a hemisphere:
[tex]\int cos(\theta)^{a*cos^2(\phi) + b*sin^2(\phi)} dw[/tex]
where dw - solid angle measure,[tex]\phi[/tex] is azimuthal angle and [tex]\theta[/tex]
is polar angle.
Thus we have:
[tex]\int cos(\theta)^{a*cos^2(\phi) + b*sin^2(\phi)} dw[/tex] = [tex]\int \int cos(\theta)^{a*cos^2(\phi) + b*sin^2(\phi)} * sin(\theta) d\theta d\phi[/tex].
over hemishere.

Integral = [tex]\int^{2 * pi}_{0} \int^{pi/2}_{0}cos(\theta)^{a*cos^2(\phi) + b*sin^2(\phi)} * sin(\theta) d\theta d\phi[/tex]

evaluate inner integral:
making substitution u = cos([tex]\theta[/tex]),
[tex]\int^{pi/2}_{0}cos(\theta)^{a*cos^2(\phi) + b*sin^2(\phi)} * sin(\theta) d\theta = <br /> - \int^{pi/2}_{0}u^{a*cos^2(\phi) + b*sin^2(\phi)} du = \frac{1}{a*cos^2(\phi) + b*sin^2(\phi) + 1}[/tex]

That's where I get stuck with integration wrt [tex]\phi[/tex]
Apparently this integral has to evaluate to [tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{(a+1)(b+1)}}[/tex]
 
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Use the substitution

[tex]t=\tan \frac{\phi}{2},[/tex]

and you end up with a rational integral.
 
[tex]\int \frac{1}{a*cos^2(\phi) + b*sin^2(\phi) + 1} d\phi[/tex]


after letting [tex]t=\tan \frac{\phi}{2}[/tex] I get

[tex]\int \frac{1+t^2}{a(1-t^2)^2 + 4bt^2 + (1+t^2)^2}[/tex]

this does not look to facinating, so I let [tex]u=t^2[/tex] and this simplifies it a bit further, but introduces [tex]\sqrt{u}[/tex] into denominator;


I tried pluging original [tex]\int \frac{1}{a*cos^2(\phi) + b*sin^2(\phi) + 1} d\phi[/tex]
in the online integrator here (http://integrals.wolfram.com/index.jsp) and the result is reasonably simple, but when I plugged the "t subsitution integral", the result is way more complex! Btw, the u substitution apprarently yeilds result with complex number, where these come from I have no idea, cause the original integral is simple.

I don't know if Mathemathica actually can give you the intermediate steps of integration e.g. how it got the result, but if it can, could some one having access to it post integration process here please?
 
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[tex]\int \frac{1+t^2}{a(1-t^2)^2 + 4bt^2 + (1+t^2)^2}[/tex]

this does not look to facinating

True! But if you want to solve it with real variable, now you can use partial fractions, i.e.

[tex]\frac{1+t^2}{a(1-t^2)^2 + 4bt^2 + (1+t^2)^2}=\frac{1+t^2}{(\sqrt{1+a}t^2+2\sqrt{a-b}t+\sqrt{1+a}) (\sqrt{1+a}t^2-2\sqrt{a-b}t+\sqrt{1+a})}[/tex]

(assuming [itex]a>b[/itex]), hence

[tex]\frac{1+t^2}{a(1-t^2)^2 + 4bt^2 + (1+t^2)^2}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+a}}\left( \frac{1}{\sqrt{1+a}t^2+2\sqrt{a-b}t+\sqrt{1+a}}+ \frac{1}{\sqrt{1+a}t^2-2\sqrt{a-b}t+\sqrt{1+a}}}\right).[/tex]

Using complex variable is fair more simple, just do the substitution [itex]2 \cos \phi=z+1/z,\,2i \sin \phi=z-1/z[/itex] and use Cauchy's Theorem.

P.S. You are missing a factor of two multipliying the integral.
 
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How did you get this expression?

[tex]\frac{1+t^2}{(\sqrt{1+a}t^2+2\sqrt{a-b}t+\sqrt{1+a}) (\sqrt{1+a}t^2-2\sqrt{a-b}t+\sqrt{1+a})}[/tex]

when I factor

[tex]{a(1-t^2)^2 + 4bt^2 + (1+t^2)^2} = (a+1)t^4 -2(a-2b-1)t^2 + (a+1)[/tex]
then say,

[tex]u=t^2[/tex] and
[tex]u1,2 = \frac{(a-2b-1)\pm 2\sqrt{(1+b)(b-1)}}{a+1}[/tex],
thus
[tex](a+1)t^4 -2(a-2b-1)t^2 + (a+1) = (t^2 - u1)(t^2 - u2)[/tex]
 
Simply write the expression

[tex](a+1)t^4 -2(a-2b-1)t^2 + (a+1)=(\sqrt{a+1}t^2+\alpha t+\sqrt{a+1})(\sqrt{a+1}t^2+\beta t +\sqrt{a+1})[/tex]

and compute [itex]\alpha,\,\beta[/itex].
 
but where do this coefficient come from:
[tex]\sqrt{a+1}[/tex]
Is there a general formula to expend a quartic? Or am I missing something obvious
Thanks.
 
Well, I started trying to express the quartic as a product of two second order polinomials, ending up with five equations for six coefficients, which meant there is no unique expression, so the logical approach was to use the symmetry of the highest and lowest term.
 

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