What Is the Least Time for Blocks to Move 7.20m Without Sliding?

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The problem involves two blocks with given coefficients of static and kinetic friction, where a force is applied to move both blocks a distance of 7.20m from rest. The goal is to determine the least time required for this motion without the top block sliding off the bottom block.

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  • Participants discuss the calculations related to static friction and the forces acting on the blocks. There is a focus on whether both masses should be considered when calculating acceleration and the implications of the applied force's location.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the original poster's calculations, suggesting a reconsideration of the approach to determining acceleration. Questions about the application of force and the dynamics between the blocks are being explored.

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There is an emphasis on understanding the role of static friction and the forces acting on both blocks, as well as the necessity of ensuring the top block does not slide during the motion.

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Homework Statement


The coefficient of static friction is 0.673 between the two blocks shown. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the lower block and the floor is 0.113. Force F causes both blocks to cross a distance of 7.20m, starting from rest. What is the least amount of time in which the motion can be completed without the top block sliding on the lower block, if the mass of the lower block is 1.90kg and the mass of the upper block is 2.54kg?


Homework Equations


Force Friction = μ*Force Normal
Δd= vt +0.5aΔt2


The Attempt at a Solution



From what I know is that the force static friction is the total amount of force allowed without allowing it to slip.
Force Friction = μ*Force Normal
Force Friction = 0.673*(mass of top block*gravity)
Force Friction = 0.673*(2.54*9.8)
Force Friction = 16.75 N

Now F=ma
16.75/(mass of top+bottom)=a
16.75/4.44=a
3.77 m/s^2 = a

Now Δd= vt +0.5aΔt2
7.2= 0*t +0.5(3.77)Δt2
Solve for t...1.95 seconds...wrong...

What Am I doing wrong?
 
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I believe all your formulas and calculations look correct but I would think about why it would be necessary to add both masses when looking for the acceleration. It is only the maximum acceleration of the top block that is needed.
 
Nbwx said:

Homework Statement


The coefficient of static friction is 0.673 between the two blocks shown. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the lower block and the floor is 0.113. Force F causes both blocks to cross a distance of 7.20m, starting from rest. What is the least amount of time in which the motion can be completed without the top block sliding on the lower block, if the mass of the lower block is 1.90kg and the mass of the upper block is 2.54kg?


Homework Equations


Force Friction = μ*Force Normal
Δd= vt +0.5aΔt2


The Attempt at a Solution



From what I know is that the force static friction is the total amount of force allowed without allowing it to slip.
Force Friction = μ*Force Normal
Force Friction = 0.673*(mass of top block*gravity)
Force Friction = 0.673*(2.54*9.8)
Force Friction = 16.75 N

Now F=ma
16.75/(mass of top+bottom)=a
16.75/4.44=a
3.77 m/s^2 = a

Now Δd= vt +0.5aΔt2
7.2= 0*t +0.5(3.77)Δt2
Solve for t...1.95 seconds...wrong...

What Am I doing wrong?

Hi Nbwx, Welcome to Physics Forums.

Is the external force being applied to the top or bottom block (or is it your choice to choose)?
 
I believe the force is being applied to the top block.
 
Nbwx said:
I believe the force is being applied to the top block.

In that case the maximum horizontal force that can be transmitted to the bottom block via the top block is what? What force impedes the bottom block's motion? Can you draw a FBD for the bottom block including these forces?
 

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