How Does Friction Affect the Acceleration and Tension in a Two-Block System?

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The problem involves a two-block system where one block rests on top of another, with a tension force applied at an angle. The context includes analyzing the effects of friction and tension on the acceleration of the blocks.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the blocks moving together and question whether block m is accelerating. There are attempts to clarify the interpretation of the problem statement regarding the motion of the blocks.

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Some participants have offered insights into the calculations related to the acceleration of the blocks, while others are questioning the assumptions made about the motion of block m. There is ongoing exploration of how to properly account for the forces acting on both blocks.

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There is a noted lack of clarity regarding the movement of block m in relation to block M, as well as the calculations presented for the acceleration. Participants are considering the effects of static friction and the conditions under which the blocks move together.

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Homework Statement


A block of mass m = 0.500 kg rests on top of a block of mass M = 2.50 kg which is on the
floor. A string attached to the block of mass M is pulled so that its tension is T = 7.00 N
at a 25.0o angle to the horizontal as shown. The blocks move together across the
horizontal surface. The coefficient of static friction at the surface between the blocks is
μs = 0.410. There is no friction at the surface between block M and the floor.

a) What is the acceleration of the two-block system?

b) What is magnitude and direction of the total force (combination of normal force
and frictional force) on block m due to block M?

c) The tension T is now increased - what is the maximum tension, Tmax, with which
the string can be pulled such that the blocks continue to move together (i.e. that
the block of mass m does not start to slide on top of the block of mass M)?

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I solved part a and got 2.11 m/s^2 but i have no clue about part b and c. please help me.
 
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For part b): what is happening to block m?
 
PeroK said:
For part b): what is happening to block m?
Since there is friction, block m is not moving. Only M is moving.?
 
When the question says "the blocks move together ...", how do you interpret that?
 
PeroK said:
When the question says "the blocks move together ...", how do you interpret that?
An analysis that comes to mind is pulling a sled with a child on it...except there is no incline
 
Is block m accelerating?
 
PeroK said:
Is block m accelerating?
no
 
dkajsdk said:
no

You might want to revise your answer to part a), where I imagine you calculated the acceleration of the two block system. You should recalculate for acceleration of mass M only?

How did you get 2.11m/s/s if block m doesn't move?
 
PeroK said:
You might want to revise your answer to part a), where I imagine you calculated the acceleration of the two block system. You should recalculate for acceleration of mass M only?

How did you get 2.11m/s/s if block m doesn't move?
I found the x and y components of the tension with the angle. Since acceleration is horizontal and not vertical, only the x component is considered. I used Newton's 2nd Law, 7cos25=ma, and when I solved for a, I got 2.11m/s^2. This is only for mass M (the one without friction). Was I supposed to include both blocks? If mass m is not moving, then shouldn't it be fine that we only consider block M?
 
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PeroK said:
You might want to revise your answer to part a), where I imagine you calculated the acceleration of the two block system. You should recalculate for acceleration of mass M only?

How did you get 2.11m/s/s if block m doesn't move?
I reckon cos25 is about 0.9, so the horizontal force is about 6.3N.

That would accelerate block M - mass 2.5kg - at about 2.6 m/s/s.

Or, it would accelerate the system of block M and m - combined mass 3kg - at about 2.1m/s/s.

So, how did you get 2.1m/s/s assuming only block M moves?
 
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