What is the Limit Comparison Test for Series Convergence?

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The discussion revolves around the Limit Comparison Test for series convergence, specifically analyzing two series represented by the equations 3/n^2 and 1/n. Participants are exploring the reasoning behind the selection of these particular series for comparison and questioning the convergence and divergence of each series.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to understand why 3/n^2 and 1/n are chosen for the limit comparison test, questioning the criteria for selecting the dominant terms in the series. There is also discussion about the behavior of the series as n approaches infinity and the implications for convergence and divergence.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the reasoning behind the choice of series for comparison, noting that the dominant terms in the numerator and denominator play a crucial role. There is acknowledgment of the convergence of 3/n^2 and the divergence of 1/n, but the discussion remains open with participants still seeking clarification on these points.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working with specific equations and are referencing a visual aid linked in the thread. There is an emphasis on understanding the behavior of the series for large values of n, and the discussion includes references to the integral test as a method of analysis.

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Homework Statement



heres the equations: http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/738/untitledzk8.jpg

there are two equations, a and b.

Homework Equations



3/n^2 for a,

and 1/n for b.

The Attempt at a Solution



Using the limit comparison test, i don't understand why to use 3/n^2 and 1/n for these equations.

It was explained that we use the largest n in the numerator and denominator, but what we picked, clearly isn't the largest?

please help. thanks.

also, how does a converge, and b diverge??
 
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We use 3/n^2 because its a good comparison, a is similar to it. Same for b, if you don't include the 19n, it simplifies to 1/n.

Now, 3/n^2 fulfils all the requirements to converge. The terms converge to zero etc. It can be shown that it is equal to [itex]\frac{\pi^2}{2}[/itex], thought I won't post the proof here.

1/n is the harmonic series, represented by zeta(1) or a p series of p=1.

A p series is of the form [tex]\sum_{n=1}^{\inf} \frac{1}{n^p}[/tex]. The rule of convergence of these is they converge if p>1, or diverge < or =1.
 
rcmango said:

Homework Statement



heres the equations: http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/738/untitledzk8.jpg

there are two equations, a and b.

Homework Equations



3/n^2 for a,

and 1/n for b.

The Attempt at a Solution



Using the limit comparison test, i don't understand why to use 3/n^2 and 1/n for these equations.

It was explained that we use the largest n in the numerator and denominator, but what we picked, clearly isn't the largest?

please help. thanks.

also, how does a converge, and b diverge??
For large values of n, the highest power of n will "dominate" (100000003 if far larger than 1000000002 [exactly 100000000 times as large!]) so we can ignore lower powers: In a, the numerator is "dominated" by 3n while the denominator is "dominated" by n3. For very large n, the fraction will be close to [tex]\frac{3n}{n^3}= \frac{3}{n^2}[/tex].

In b, n2+ 19n is "dominated by n2 and the square root of that is n. For very large n, [tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{n^2+ 19n}}[/itex] will be close to [tex]\frac{1}{n}[/tex].<br /> <br /> As for why one converges and the other diverges, use the "integral test":<br /> [tex]\int \frac{3}{x^2}dx= -\frac{3}{x}[/tex] <br /> which goes to 0 as x goes to infinity.<br /> On the other hand,<br /> [tex]\int \frac{1}{x}dx= ln(x)[/itex]<br /> which does not converge as x goes to infinity.[/tex][/tex]
 
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awesome job, halls thanks for showing the simplification too. i see it now. thanks.
 

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