What is the Limit of a Geometric Series with a Fractional Common Ratio?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of a geometric series with a fractional common ratio, specifically the series \(\sum_{k=1}^\infty \frac{3^{(k-1)}}{4^{(k+1)}}\). Participants are exploring the properties of geometric series and the conditions under which they converge.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss identifying the first term and common ratio of the series. There are attempts to factor terms to simplify the series and questions about the starting index for \(n\) in the partial sums.

Discussion Status

Several participants have offered insights into the structure of the series and the formula for the sum of a geometric series. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to manipulate the series for evaluation, but no consensus has been reached on a specific method yet.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the importance of recognizing the difference between the series starting from \(n=1\) versus \(n=0\) and the implications this has on the evaluation of the limit.

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Homework Statement


Evaluate the problem: \sum_{k=1}^\infty \frac{3^{(k-1)}}{4^{(k+1)}}


Homework Equations


\displaystyle\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty} S_n = \frac{a}{1-r}


The Attempt at a Solution


I know that the limit of the partial sequence is what i need to help solve this, but can't figure out how to do that. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
 
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togame said:

Homework Statement


Evaluate the problem: \sum_{k=1}^\infty \frac{3^{(k-1)}}{4^{(k+1)}}

Homework Equations


\displaystyle\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty} S_n = \frac{a}{1-r}

The Attempt at a Solution


I know that the limit of the partial sequence is what i need to help solve this, but can't figure out how to do that. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Factor some terms out so it looks like (3/4)k, and k=0..∞

EDIT: cleanest way might be pullout 1/16 and shift your index, an alternative might be pulling out 1/12 and adding (and subtracting) 1 (or 1/12 rather).

SECOND EDIT: I apologize, I didn't read your question carefully.
 
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togame said:

Homework Statement


Evaluate the problem: \sum_{k=1}^\infty \frac{3^{(k-1)}}{4^{(k+1)}}


Homework Equations


\displaystyle\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty} S_n = \frac{a}{1-r}


The Attempt at a Solution


I know that the limit of the partial sequence is what i need to help solve this, but can't figure out how to do that. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Start by figuring out what is r and what is a. Also, in S_n, what values of n are included (i.e., where does n "start")?

RGV
 
Ray Vickson said:
Start by figuring out what is r and what is a. Also, in S_n, what values of n are included (i.e., where does n "start")?

RGV
Related to Ray Vickson's last point, the sum of a geometric series is
\sum_{n=0}^\infty ar^n= \frac{a}{1- r}

Your sum is
\sum_{n= 1}^\infty \frac{3^n}{4^n}= \sum_{n=1}^\infty \left(\frac{3}{4}\right)^n

Do you see the difference?
 
HallsofIvy said:
Related to Ray Vickson's last point, the sum of a geometric series is
\sum_{n=0}^\infty ar^n= \frac{a}{1- r}

Your sum is
\sum_{n= 1}^\infty \frac{3^n}{4^n}= \sum_{n=1}^\infty \left(\frac{3}{4}\right)^n

Do you see the difference?

Don't forget the 1/12 factor taken out in the HOI equation. :wink:
 
Just as (1-r)(1+r)=1-r^2, we have (1-r)(1+r+r^2+\cdots+r^n)=1-r^{n+1}. So if r\ne 1, then
1+r+r^2+\cdots+r^n=\frac{1-r^{n+1}}{1-r}.
Additionally, if r<1, then we can take the limit of both sides. Notice the left side is your partial sum. Also, you may multiply both sides by a.
 
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