What is the limit of the function as z approaches 0?

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The discussion revolves around the limit of the function (z bar)^2/z as z approaches 0, exploring the behavior of the function in the context of complex analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants examine the limit by considering different paths towards the origin in the complex plane, specifically along the real and imaginary axes. There are questions about the implications of the limit approaching different values based on these paths. Some participants also discuss the importance of the definition of a limit and the conditions that must be satisfied.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the limit's behavior, with participants questioning the original poster's reasoning and offering insights into the properties of complex numbers. Some guidance has been provided regarding the manipulation of absolute values and the implications of the limit definition.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the significance of the condition 0 < |z - z_0| < δ in the limit definition, indicating a potential misunderstanding in the original approach. There is also a mention of the need to clarify the behavior of the function as z approaches 0 from different directions.

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Homework Statement



Used the definition of a limit to prove that as z=>0 lim (z bar)^2/(z)=0

Homework Equations



abs(f(z)-w(0)) < eplison whenever abs(z-z(0)) < lower case delta

The Attempt at a Solution



let z=x+iy and z bar = x-iy

z=(x,y)

Since limit of function is approaches origin, there are two cases when the limit approaches the origin: when (x,0) and when (y,0)

first case(real axis): z=>(x,0) lim (z bar)^2/(z)=0 => (x-i*0)^2/(x+i*0)=(x^2)/x= x

second case(imaginary axis) : z=>(0,y) lim (z bar)^2/(z)=0 => (0-i*y)^2/(0+i*y)=(i*y)^2/(i*y)= i*y

Both cases each time show that the function has two different limits, and that the limit of the function does not approach zero in either case.

So how can the limit of the function be zero?
 
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I can't understand what you're doing. What does "when (x,0) and when (y,0)" mean?

Also, you should have [itex]0 < |z - z_0| < \delta[/itex] in the definition of a limit; the "0 <" part is important.

Now to solve your problem, I recommend that you first prove the following basic facts:
(1) |z/w| = |z|/|w| (w[itex]\neq[/itex]0)
(2) |[itex]\overline{z}[/itex]| = |z|.
 
morphism said:
I can't understand what you're doing. What does "when (x,0) and when (y,0)" mean?

Also, you should have [itex]0 < |z - z_0| < \delta[/itex] in the definition of a limit; the "0 <" part is important.

Now to solve your problem, I recommend that you first prove the following basic facts:
(1) |z/w| = |z|/|w| (w[itex]\neq[/itex]0)
(2) |[itex]\overline{z}[/itex]| = |z|.

So I have to show that |z_bar^2/z|=|z_bar*z_bar/z|=|z_bar|*|z_bar|/z
 
I was hoping you'd see that, for z[itex]\neq[/itex]0,

[tex]\left| \frac{\bar{z}^2}{z} \right| = |z|.[/tex]
 
morphism said:
I was hoping you'd see that, for z[itex]\neq[/itex]0,

[tex]\left| \frac{\bar{z}^2}{z} \right| = |z|.[/tex]

but wouldn't |z_bar^2/z| => |(x-iy)^2/(x+iy)| since z_bar is the conjugate of z. So how can |z_bar^2/z|=|z|?
 
Benzoate said:

Homework Statement



Used the definition of a limit to prove that as z=>0 lim (z bar)^2/(z)=0

Homework Equations



abs(f(z)-w(0)) < eplison whenever abs(z-z(0)) < lower case delta

The Attempt at a Solution



let z=x+iy and z bar = x-iy

z=(x,y)

Since limit of function is approaches origin, there are two cases when the limit approaches the origin: when (x,0) and when (y,0)

first case(real axis): z=>(x,0) lim (z bar)^2/(z)=0 => (x-i*0)^2/(x+i*0)=(x^2)/x= x

second case(imaginary axis) : z=>(0,y) lim (z bar)^2/(z)=0 => (0-i*y)^2/(0+i*y)=(i*y)^2/(i*y)= i*y

Both cases each time show that the function has two different limits, and that the limit of the function does not approach zero in either case.

So how can the limit of the function be zero?
?? If z is approaching 0, both x and y go to 0. Those certainly do go to zero!
 
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[tex]$\left\vert \frac{\bar{z}^2}{z} - 0 \right\vert = \left\vert<br /> \frac{\bar{z}^2}{z} \right\vert = |\bar{z} \bar{z} z^{-1}| =<br /> |\bar{z}| |\bar{z}| |z^{-1}| = |z||z||z^{-1}| = |z||z z^{-1}| = |z|<br /> < \varepsilon$[/tex]
 

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