What is the locus of points where $F_x = 1$ and $|F_x| = 2$?

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The discussion revolves around the vector field defined by $F=0.4(y-2x)a_{x}-(\frac{200}{x^2+y^2+z^2})a_{z}$ and focuses on determining the locus of points where $F_x = 1$ and $|F_x| = 2$. Participants explore the implications of these conditions in the context of vector fields, including the interpretation of components and absolute values.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant evaluates the vector field at a specific point and calculates its magnitude and direction.
  • There is a clarification regarding the notation $a_x$ and $a_z$, which are identified as unit vectors in Cartesian coordinates.
  • Participants discuss whether $F_x$ refers to the $x$-component of the vector field or its derivative with respect to $x$.
  • It is established that $F_x = 1$ leads to the equation $y - 2x = 2.5$, representing a plane in the context of the locus of points.
  • Another participant queries the difference between the conditions $F_x = 1$ and $|F_x| = 2$, expressing confusion over the absolute value.
  • It is noted that $|F_x| = 2$ results in two lines, specifically $y - 2x = 5$ and $y - 2x = -5$, which are confirmed as correct by another participant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the interpretations of the vector components and the resulting equations for the loci, but there is a discussion about the implications of absolute values in the context of the equations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the definitions of vector components and the implications of absolute values, which may not be universally understood. The mathematical steps leading to the loci are presented without detailed derivations.

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Given the vector field $F=0.4(y-2x)a_{x}-(\frac{200}{x^2+y^2+z^2})a_{z}$ :
1. evaluate $|F|$ at $P(-4,3,5)$;
2. Find unit vector specifying the direction of $|F|$ at P.
3. Describe the locus of all points for which $ F_{x}=1; |F_{x}|=2$

I managed to solve the 1 and 2

By substituting the value of x and y to the vector field I obtain
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$F=4.4a_{x}-4a{z}$
$|F|=5.95$

$a_{p}=\frac{F}{|F|}=0.740a_{x}-0.673a_{z}$

Can you help me with the last question.
 
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Hi Drain Brain,

What is the meaning of $a_x$ and $a_z$? I'm asking because although $F$ is supposed to be a vector field, the question you seek deals with the equation $F_x = 1$, which is not a vector equation of three dimensions.
 
Those are the unit vectors in the cartesian coordinate.
 
Ok, then when you wrote $ F_x = 1$ in part 3, did you mean $|F_x| = 1$?
 
No. It's just as it is.
 
So $ F_x $ represents the $ x $- component of $ F $, not the derivative of $ F $ with respect to $ x$?
 
Euge said:
So $ F_x $ represents the $ x $- component of $ F $, not the derivative of $ F $ with respect to $ x$?

Yes.
 
Alright. Then $F_x = 1$ is equivalent to $0.4(y - 2x) = 1$, i.e., $y - 2x = 2.5$. So the locus of points satisfying $F_x = 1$ is the plane $y - 2x = 2.5$. Can you find the locus for $|F_x| = 2$?
 
Euge said:
Alright. Then $F_x = 1$ is equivalent to $0.4(y - 2x) = 1$, i.e., $y - 2x = 2.5$. So the locus of points satisfying $F_x = 1$ is the plane $y - 2x = 2.5$. Can you find the locus for $|F_x| = 2$?

Hi euge!

I just want to know what's the difference when we find the locus of points for $F_x = 1$ and $|F_x| = 2$? The absolute value confuses me.
 
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The difference is that the latter gives two lines, whereas the former gives one line. Have you tried working them out?
 
  • #11
Euge said:
The difference is that the latter gives two lines, whereas the former gives one line. Have you tried working them out?

my answer for $|F|=2$ are

$y-2x=5$ and $y-2x=-5$ are these correct?
 
  • #12
They're correct!
 

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