What Is the Luminosity of Emitted Radiation from a Black Hole Accreting Mass?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the luminosity of radiation emitted from a black hole that is accreting mass. The original poster presents a scenario involving a black hole of mass M and a mass accretion rate denoted as ##\dot{M}##, with a focus on the energy conversion efficiency ##\eta##.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between energy emitted and luminosity, with some suggesting that luminosity can be expressed as a function of the mass accretion rate and efficiency. Questions arise regarding the proper formulation of luminosity and the relevance of dividing energy by 4π.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the concept of luminosity, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their approaches. While one participant suggests a potential formula for luminosity, others question the simplicity of the problem and the necessity of certain components in the problem statement.

Contextual Notes

Participants note a lack of clarity regarding the application of the luminosity equation and express confusion about the relationship between energy, time, and the parameters given in the problem. There is an acknowledgment of the potential for misunderstanding the problem's requirements.

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Homework Statement


Suppose that a black hole of mass M accretes mass at a rate ##\dot{M}##. Further suppose that accretion of mass Δm leads to the radiation of energy ##\Delta E= \eta Δmc^2##, for some effeciency of energy conversion, ##\eta##. What is the luminosity of emitted radiation in terms of ##\dot{M}## and ##\eta##?

Homework Equations


Luminosity equation, sort of?

The Attempt at a Solution


The only equation I've ever seen for luminosity has been in terms of temperature and radius. So I'm at a loss here where to go with this. I understand that luminosity is the amount of energy an object gives off over time but I'm sure I can't just put that ΔE over a Δt and call it good. This is suppose to be a simple question but I'm just not making the connections I need to solve it.
 
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Edited for clarification. Currently my answer is just the ΔE over 4pi. Anyone have a suggestion for this?
 
bowlbase said:
Edited for clarification. Currently my answer is just the ΔE over 4pi. Anyone have a suggestion for this?

Ok. I'm not an expert but I really don't see any other way to go with this. Luminosity is dE/dt as far as I know. So dE/dt=η*dM/dt*c^2=η*##\dot M##*c^2. You don't quite divide them both by Δt, but it's really almost the same thing. You said this is an easy question, right? Maybe it is that easy. At least I don't see what else to do. I don't see what sense ΔE over 4pi makes, it has the units of energy, not energy/second.
 
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Maybe I'm just thinking too hard about this. What you have must be correct I would assume, but it makes me question why he'd even make that part of the problem set. Unless just to check if we recall what luminosity is. Anyway, thanks for the assistance.
 
bowlbase said:
Maybe I'm just thinking too hard about this. What you have must be correct I would assume, but it makes me question why he'd even make that part of the problem set. Unless just to check if we recall what luminosity is. Anyway, thanks for the assistance.

Yes, it does seem too easy. Let me know if I've missed something important.
 

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