What is the magnetic field generated by these two particle beams?

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The discussion centers on the magnetic field generated by two parallel particle beams: a positively charged beam moving along the x-axis and a negatively charged beam moving in the opposite direction. Participants reference Biot-Savart's Law and Ampere's Circuital Law to analyze the magnetic field's variation between the beams. The conclusion emphasizes that the magnetic field behaves similarly to that produced by a current-carrying wire, as moving charges create a magnetic field. The principle of superposition is also highlighted for understanding the resultant magnetic field.

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A uniform beam of positively charged particles is moving with a constant velocity parallel to another beam of negatively charged particles moving with the same velocity but in opposite direction separated by a distance d. Then, how should be the variation of magnetic field B along a perpendicular line drawn between the two beams?(For better view, imagine positive beam to be x-axis and negative beam to be y=1 line.)

I know that electric field will be there. But how the magnetic field will be generated and how will it vary?
 
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Hello Anurag, ##\qquad## :welcome: ##\qquad## !

Please post in homework and use the template -- it's mandatory

What do you know of the B-field generated by a current ##i## along the x-axis ?
 
BvU said:
Hello Anurag, ##\qquad## :welcome: ##\qquad## !

Please post in homework and use the template -- it's mandatory

What do you know of the B-field generated by a current ##i## along the x-axis ?
Thanks. I will take care of this from now on.
 
BvU said:
Hello Anurag, ##\qquad## :welcome: ##\qquad## !

Please post in homework and use the template -- it's mandatory

What do you know of the B-field generated by a current ##i## along the x-axis ?
It follows Biot-Savarts Law. That is ##{μ(i×dl)} /{r^2}##. (I am not able to produce it in fraction expression)
 
I moved it to homework, but you must still show your effort before our helpers are allowed to help.
 
anorlunda said:
I moved it to homework, but you must still show your effort before our helpers are allowed to help.
But I only know about current producing Magnetic field and not about charge beam producing magnetic field
 
BvU said:
Hello Anurag, ##\qquad## :welcome: ##\qquad## !

Please post in homework and use the template -- it's mandatory

What do you know of the B-field generated by a current ##i## along the x-axis ?
But it is charge beam and not a current carrying wire. Are both the above to be the same situations for magnetic field? If yes, then how?
 
See #5. Remember that current = moving charge
 
BvU said:
See #5. Remember that current = moving charge
So can we solve it using Ampere's circuital law?
As ##\vec{B}.{d\vec {l}} =μi=\frac{qv} {x}## But if it is so, then what should we take x?
 
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Anurag98 said:
But it is charge beam and not a current carrying wire
What's the difference :wink: ?

Let a to b be on the x-axis, one unit of distance apart (1m).
How much charge per unit time goes from a to b on the x-axis if there is a current ##i## ?
And how much charge per unit time goes from a to b on the x-axis if there is a beam of particles with charge q that move with velocity ##v##.

Conclusion ?

Note that your exercise asks for a qualitative answer.
 
  • #11
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\vec{B}.{d\vec {l}} =μi \ ## I recognize. ##μ i=\frac{qv} {x} ## misses a ##\mu## .
What is the direction of ##\vec v## in your exercise ?
So what direction for ##x## ? for ##\vec B## ?
 
  • #12
BvU said:
What's the difference :wink: ?

Let a to b be on the x-axis, one unit of distance apart (1m).
How much charge per unit time goes from a to b on the x-axis if there is a current ##i## ?
And how much charge per unit time goes from a to b on the x-axis if there is a beam of particles with charge q that move with velocity ##v##.

Conclusion ?

Note that your exercise asks for a qualitative answer.
Okay. I understood. From what I am able think is that the field varies radially from each current and that we can use principle of superposition?
 
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You got it.
But be careful...:rolleyes:
 
  • #14
BvU said:
##
\vec{B}.{d\vec {l}} =μi ## I recognize. ##\μ i=\frac{qv} {x} ## misses a ##\mu## .
What is the direction of ##\vec v## in your exercise ?
So what direction for ##x## ? for ##\vec B## ?
My mistake for μ. Please see # 12.
 
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BvU said:
You got it.
Thanks for your help. :)
 
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