What is the Maximum Height for Sliding Off a Semi-Circle?

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The problem involves a boy sliding down a semi-circular igloo and seeks to determine the height at which he will slide off. The context includes concepts from mechanics, particularly involving forces and energy conservation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the potential use of conservation of energy and the role of forces, including centripetal and centrifugal forces, in the motion of the boy. Questions arise about breaking down gravitational forces and the correct approach to finding velocity.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the forces involved and the application of energy conservation. Some guidance has been provided regarding the relationship between speed, forces, and the conditions for sliding off the semi-circle.

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There is mention of assumptions such as the absence of friction and the specific gravitational constant. Participants are also questioning the adequacy of their initial approaches and the implications of the forces acting on the boy.

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Homework Statement


A boy sits on top of an igloo shaped like a semi-circle of Radius R. He begins to slide down the semi-circle. At what height above the ground does the boy slide off the semi-circle? Assume g=9.8 m/s2, and no friction.
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Homework Equations


Conservation of energy? Or centrifugal force?

The Attempt at a Solution


Couldn't think of any starting points; tried conservation of energy, but failed. Answer is obviously in terms of R. Can anyone shed the light on this problem?
 
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At each point you will need to consider how quickly the boy is moving around the exterior of the circle, and how much force on the boy directed towards the inside of the circle will be needed to keep him moving in a circle at that speed.
 
I do not quite understand how I should break gravity into different vectors, or is it even the right approach finding the velocity? The force you are talking about is the centrifugal force right?
But, my teachers seems to be hinting that conservation of energy is needed. Care to explain further?
 
Noobcake said:
I do not quite understand how I should break gravity into different vectors, or is it even the right approach finding the velocity? The force you are talking about is the centrifugal force right?
But, my teachers seems to be hinting that conservation of energy is needed. Care to explain further?

Conservation of energy will tell you the speed of the boy at any height. The speed is related to the centripetal force required to stay in circular motion. Consider all of the forces acting on the boy and resolve them into components in the direction of motion (tangent to the circle until he separates from it) and perpendicular to the motion (the radial direction).
 
To give you a BIG hint:
WHICH force acting on the boy will be zero when he slides off the semi-circle?
 

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