What is the Meaning of P(E given F) in Basic Probability?

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The discussion clarifies the concept of conditional probability, specifically P(E given F), which represents the probability of event E occurring given that event F has occurred. It emphasizes that for two mutually exclusive events F and G, their probabilities sum to one, meaning P(F) + P(G) = 1. The explanation uses Venn diagrams to illustrate how the areas of E overlapping with F and G contribute to the overall probability of E. The conversation also points out that these examples are foundational in probability theory, often referred to as strict dichotomies. Understanding these principles is essential for grasping more complex probability scenarios.
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I have never been very good at probability, and I am confused with this rather simple statement:

"BASIC FACT:
Let E be any event, and F and G be events such that one and only one of the events F and G will occur. Then

P(E) = P(F)*P(E given F) + P(G)*P(E given G)"

Where P(E) = the probability of E occurring. And the same for the others.

To be honest I don't even understand what it is asking me to do procedurally. What does it mean "E given F"? Is that the probability of E occurring if F occurs? Why is that pertinent? More than that I don't understand the reasoning nor do I have any intuitive inkling as to why this expression would yield the correct answer.
Can someone give an example perhaps?
(The book I was given just assumes the reader automatically understands this property).

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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The best way to understand it is by using a Venn diagram. The descriptions of F and G are such that they don't overlap and together fill the entire event space. Place E on the diagram and you see that part of it may overlap F while the rest would overlap G.

To add things up properly, P(E given F) means the area of the part of E overlapping F divided by the area of F. Similarly for P(E given G). To get the E area, multiply each piece by the area of F or G as needed.
 
mathman said:
The best way to understand it is by using a Venn diagram. The descriptions of F and G are such that they don't overlap and together fill the entire event space. Place E on the diagram and you see that part of it may overlap F while the rest would overlap G.

To add things up properly, P(E given F) means the area of the part of E overlapping F divided by the area of F. Similarly for P(E given G). To get the E area, multiply each piece by the area of F or G as needed.

Okay. I still have a couple questions.
If P(F) and P(G) fill the "entire event space" does that mean P(F) + P(G) always = 1?
And is that just because one and only one of the events must occur?
That seems to make sense.
So E is dependent on F and G, and this description is finding the probability of E as it depends on the outcomes of F or G?
I hope I'm not misunderstanding because it seems to fit now.

On a side note, do you know if there is a name for this sort of thing so that I can look into it more, or should I just look into general probability basics?
Thanks :)
 
Redd said:
Okay. I still have a couple questions.
If P(F) and P(G) fill the "entire event space" does that mean P(F) + P(G) always = 1?

Yes

So E is dependent on F and G, and this description is finding the probability of E as it depends on the outcomes of F or G?

P(F v G)=1; P(F^G)= 0; P(F) = 1 - P(G); P(G)= 1 - P(F).
On a side note, do you know if there is a name for this sort of thing so that I can look into it more, or should I just look into general probability basics?

These types of problems are about the most basic probability examples, such as coin tosses with fair or biased coins. I guess you could call them strict dichotomies.
 
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