What is the moment of inertia and angular velocity of a released rod?

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The discussion revolves around a uniform rod of mass 5.0 kg and length 20 cm, which is pivoted at one end and released from a horizontal position. Participants are exploring the moment of inertia about the pivot point and the angular velocity when the rod reaches a vertical position, as well as the speed of the tip of the rod at that moment.

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  • Participants discuss using the parallel-axis theorem to calculate the moment of inertia and explore the relationship between angular acceleration and torque. There are attempts to apply conservation of energy principles to relate gravitational potential energy to rotational kinetic energy.

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Some participants have provided guidance on using conservation of energy rather than torque to solve for angular velocity. There is ongoing exploration of the correct height to consider for gravitational potential energy and the appropriate formulas for kinetic energy in rotational motion.

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Participants are questioning the assumptions regarding the height of the center of mass and the setup of the problem, particularly in relation to the geometry of the rod's motion.

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A uniform rod of mass M=5.0 kg and length ℓ=20 cm is pivoted on a frictionless hinge at the end
of it. The rod is held horizontally and then released.

a) Use the parallel-axis theorem to determine the moment of inertia of the rod about the hinge (ie
its end).

b) Determine the angular velocity of the rod when it reaches the vertical position and the speed of
the rod tip’s at this point.I=MR^2

Ok so what I did first was 1/12 ML^2 as "I" about the hinge is 1/12ML2 + (M*(L/2)2) to work out A.

I don't really know how to work out b though, apart from possibly using that to work out the distance from the radius and then doing work done to then find out ω, I assume.
 
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Draw a picture of the rod in the horizontal position before it is released. At the moment of release, what are the forces acting on the rod? How do these forces cause the rod to rotate about the hinged end? Draw a free body diagram.

Do you know the relationship between angular acceleration and the moment acting on a body? You know, something you might have picked up in a physics class about rotational motion.
 
SteamKing said:
Draw a picture of the rod in the horizontal position before it is released. At the moment of release, what are the forces acting on the rod? How do these forces cause the rod to rotate about the hinged end? Draw a free body diagram.

Do you know the relationship between angular acceleration and the moment acting on a body? You know, something you might have picked up in a physics class about rotational motion.


So If I work out I = (1/12)*M*R2
Then τ = MG* 10x10-2 (as the length of the rod is 20x10-2 - Only weight is
acting)

Then I use the solution to that and plug it into (1/2)ω2*I and solve for ω?
 
RyRy19 said:
So If I work out I = (1/12)*M*R2
Except that you want the moment about the hinge, as calculated in (a).
Then τ = MG* 10x10-2
As you suggested, the easy way is to use work conservation. For that, you don't need the torque. What is the rotational KE gained? What PE has been lost?
 
haruspex said:
Except that you want the moment about the hinge, as calculated in (a).

As you suggested, the easy way is to use work conservation. For that, you don't need the torque. What is the rotational KE gained? What PE has been lost?


So I would do mgh, for the GPE and then solve to work out v from 1/2mv^2 ? I'm guessing you take the height in regards to a triangle? Find the resultant vector or rather the hypotenuse?

If so I think I understand.

Thanks for the help.
 
RyRy19 said:
So I would do mgh, for the GPE and then solve to work out v from 1/2mv^2 ? I'm guessing you take the height in regards to a triangle? Find the resultant vector or rather the hypotenuse?

If so I think I understand.

Thanks for the help.

No I don't think you understand. What's the height h? Why aren't you using the formula for the kinetic energy of rotational motion?
 
RyRy19 said:
So I would do mgh, for the GPE and then solve to work out v from 1/2mv^2 ?
No, ##\frac 12 I\omega^2##, as you posted earlier. But make sure to use the right I.
I'm guessing you take the height in regards to a triangle? Find the resultant vector or rather the hypotenuse?
Triangle? You want the change in height of the mass centre of the rod.
 

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