What is the Nature of i to the Power of i? Understanding Imaginary Numbers

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The discussion revolves around the nature of the expression \(i^i\), where \(i\) represents the imaginary unit defined as \(\sqrt{-1}\). Participants explore whether \(i^i\) is imaginary or real, and the implications of complex logarithms in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Some participants discuss the representation of \(i^i\) and the non-uniqueness of the complex logarithm, suggesting that multiple values can be derived from it. Others question the assumption that \(i^i\) is purely imaginary, leading to a clarification that it is, in fact, real.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the nature of \(i^i\) and addressing misconceptions about its imaginary or real status. There is an emphasis on the importance of understanding the complex logarithm and its implications for the expression.

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Participants note that the original question may be ill-posed due to the existence of infinitely many values for \(i^i\), depending on the choice of integer \(k\) in the logarithmic representation.

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A small cute question here :biggrin:.

[itex]i[/tex] is imaginary. So what is the nature of [itex]i^i[/itex]. Is it imaginary too? <br /> <br /> [tex]i = \sqrt{-1}[/tex][/itex]
 
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knowing that i is e^(i*pi/2), raising it to the ith power gives you e^(i^2*pi/2) and i^2 is -1, so e^(-pi/2)
*pulls out Ti-89*

yup.
 
The question is ill-posed. There isn't just one number that may lay claim to the representation as [itex]i^{i}[/itex]; infinitely many numbers, in fact, can claim that right.
 
arildno said:
The question is ill-posed. There isn't just one number that may lay claim to the representation as [itex]i^{i}[/itex]; infinitely many numbers, in fact, can claim that right.
How is it possible to show that? Isn't [itex]i^i[/itex] purely imaginary?
 
It has to do with the complex logarithm being non-unique, we have, say for any choice of integer k:
[tex]i=e^{i\frac{\pi}{2}+i2k\pi}[/tex]
Thus, the logarithm of i is the set of numbers [itex]i(\frac{\pi}{2}+2k\pi), k\in{Z}[/itex]


Thus, we have:
[tex]i^{i}=e^{i*(i*(\frac{\pi}{2}+2k\pi))}=e^{-\frac{\pi}{2}-2k\pi}[/itex][/tex]
 
arildno said:
It has to do with the complex logarithm being non-unique, we have, say for any choice of integer k:
[tex]i=e^{i\frac{\pi}{2}+i2k\pi}[/tex]
Thus, the logarithm of i is the set of numbers [itex]i(\frac{\pi}{2}+2k\pi), k\in{Z}[/itex]


Thus, we have:
[tex]i^{i}=e^{i*(i*(\frac{\pi}{2}+2k\pi))}=e^{-\frac{\pi}{2}-2k\pi}[/itex][/tex]
[tex] <br /> All of which are, by the way, real, not "pure imaginary"![/tex]
 
Can't see I said they were imaginary, but I should have emphasized them being real nonetheless.
Thanks, HallsofIvy
 
You didn't. I was emphasizing that they are real since the original post was "[itex]i[/itex] is imaginary. So what is the nature of [itex]i^i[/itex]. Is it imaginary too?" and then after you said there were many numbers equal to [itex]i^i[/b], Reshma said "How is it possible to show that? Isn't [itex]i^i[/itex] purely imaginary?" so I thought it best to make it very clear that all "variations" of i<sup>i</sup> were real, not imaginary.[/itex]
 
You didn't. I was emphasizing that they are real since the original post was "[itex]i[/itex] is imaginary. So what is the nature of [itex]i^i[/itex]. Is it imaginary too?" and then after you said there were many numbers equal to [itex]i^i[/b], Reshma said "How is it possible to show that? Isn't [itex]i^i[/itex] purely imaginary?" so I thought it best to make it very clear that all "variations" of i<sup>i</sup> were real, not imaginary.[/itex]
 
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I fully agree. I ought to have emphasized it, your clarification was necessary.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
You didn't. I was emphasizing that they are real since the original post was "[itex]i[/itex] is imaginary. So what is the nature of [itex]i^i[/itex]. Is it imaginary too?" and then after you said there were many numbers equal to [itex]i^i[/b], Reshma said "How is it possible to show that? Isn't [itex]i^i[/itex] purely imaginary?" so I thought it best to make it very clear that all "variations" of i<sup>i</sup> were real, not imaginary.[/itex]
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You didn't. I was emphasizing that they are real since the original post was "[itex]i[/itex] is imaginary. So what is the nature of [itex]i^i[/itex]. Is it imaginary too?" and then after you said there were many numbers equal to [itex]i^i[/b], Reshma said "How is it possible to show that? Isn't [itex]i^i[/itex] purely imaginary?" so I thought it best to make it very clear that all "variations" of i<sup>i</sup> were real, not imaginary.[/itex]
 
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Thank you very much, Arildno and HallsofIvy! So, [itex]i^i[/itex] is real !
 
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The same goes for the more spectacular (when it comes to notation)

[tex]\sqrt<i>{i}=i^{\frac{1}{i}}=e^{\frac{\pi}{2}+2n\pi} , n\in\mathbb{Z} </i>[/tex]

Daniel.
 

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