What is the necessary and sufficient condition?

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The discussion revolves around the conditions under which the inequality |x-2| < a serves as a necessary or sufficient condition for the quadratic inequality x^2 - 3x - 10 < 0. Participants are exploring the implications of these conditions and the corresponding range of values for a.

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  • Participants are attempting to determine the correct range of a that satisfies the necessary and sufficient conditions for the given inequalities. There are questions regarding the correctness of the x-range derived from the quadratic inequality and whether |x-2| < a can be a necessary condition.

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There is ongoing debate about the correct interpretation of the conditions and the corresponding ranges for a. Some participants have provided insights into the implications of the inequalities, while others are questioning the accuracy of the initial attempts and the definitions being used.

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Participants are addressing potential misunderstandings regarding the ranges of x and a, as well as the definitions of necessary and sufficient conditions. There is a noted lack of consensus on the correct solutions and interpretations of the inequalities involved.

  • #31
If you pick ## a=4## then
<br /> \lvert x-2 \rvert &lt; 4 \iff -4 &lt; x-2 &lt; 4 \iff -2 &lt;x&lt;6<br />
 
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  • #32
nuuskur said:
f you pick, say, ## a=1##, then the implication
<br /> (x+2)(x-5)&lt;0 \implies -1&lt;x&lt;3<br />
is false. We can pick ##x = -1.5##, it still stands that ##(x+2)(x-5)<0 ##, but at the same time ##x\leq -1##.
Ok, the implication is still false and the same counter-example works, but I should go back to primary school, because elementary arithmetic is, at times, an impossible task. It should be for ## a=1##
<br /> (x+2)(x-5)&lt;0 \implies 1&lt;x&lt;3<br />
Now, any ##x\in (-2,1]\cup [3,5) ## works as a counter-example.

but I am certain now that this is correct
:DD
 
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nuuskur said:
Ok, the implication is still false and the same counter-example works, but I should go back to primary school, because elementary arithmetic is, at times, an impossible task. It should be for ## a=1##
<br /> (x+2)(x-5)&lt;0 \implies 1&lt;x&lt;3<br />
Now, any ##x\in (-2,1]\cup [3,5) ## works as a counter-example.

but I am certain now that this is correct
:DD
Ok thanks
 
  • #34
SammyS said:
Yes.
For | x − 2 | < a to be a sufficient condition so that x2 − 3x − 10 < 0, the range for a is 0 < a ≤ 3.
You have not been very clear in showing that this is the case.

This does not give all of the values of x which satisfy the given quadratic inequality. Rather any x fulfilling | x − 2 | < a will satisfy the quadratic inequality.for the specified range of a values. So being in that interval is a sufficient condition for x to satisfy the quadratic inequality..
I'm still hung up on the original problem statement which says x2 − 3x − 10 < 10. Did we decide somewhere that this was in error?
 
  • #35
tnich said:
I'm still hung up on the original problem statement which says x2 − 3x − 10 < 10. Did we decide somewhere that this was in error?
Yes. I made mistake. It supposed to be x^2 - 3x - 10 < 0
 

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