What Is the Non-Compact Form of the SU(2) Algebra in String Theory?

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The discussion revolves around the non-compact form of the SU(2) algebra in the context of string theory, particularly focusing on the relationship between the Virasoro algebra and its SL(2,R) subalgebra. Participants explore concepts of compactness in Lie groups and algebras, as well as the implications of these properties in theoretical frameworks.

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  • One participant notes that the Virasoro algebra in string theory contains an SL(2,R) subalgebra generated by L_{-1}, L_{0}, and L_{1}, which is described as the non-compact form of the SU(2) algebra.
  • Another participant explains that to obtain a non-compact form of a Lie algebra, one can multiply some generators by i, providing a transformation from SU(2) to SL(2,R) and detailing the resulting algebraic relations.
  • The same participant discusses the compactness of a Lie group in relation to the eigenvalues of its Cartan-Killing form, indicating that the signature of the Killing form for SL(2,R) suggests it is non-compact.
  • There is a request for further clarification on the concept of compactness and non-compactness in Lie groups, indicating a desire for deeper understanding.
  • A later reply emphasizes that while the compactness of a Lie group can be inferred from its Lie algebra, the definition of compactness is also tied to the topological properties of the group itself.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the concepts of compactness and the transformation of Lie algebras, with some seeking further clarification. There is no consensus on the intuitive explanations of these concepts, as perspectives differ.

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I read that in string theory the Virasoro algebra contains an ##SL(2,R)## subalgebra that is generated by ##L_{-1}, L_{0}, L_{1}##. I read that this is the non-compact form of the ##SU(2)## algebra. Also, that as ##SU(2)## and ##SO(3)## have the same Lie algebra, so do ##SL(2,R)## and ##SO(2,1)##.

Can someone explain all the above statementes? I understand what a compact group is and I have seen that ##SU(2)## and ##SO(3)## have the same Lie algebra. But, what do the other statements mean?

Can you also give a more intuitive explanation?

Thank you very much.
 
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What's intuitive to one person might not be to another.

To obtain a "non-compact form" of a Lie algebra, you multiply some of the generators by ##i##. So if ##X_1, X_2, X_3## have the ##SU(2)## algebra

[X_1, X_2] = X_3, \qquad [X_2, X_3] = X_1, \qquad [X_3, X_1] = X_2,
then the new set of generators given by

\tilde X_1 \equiv i X_1, \qquad \tilde X_2 \equiv i X_2, \qquad \tilde X_3 \equiv X_3
will have the algebra

[\tilde X_1, \tilde X_2] = -\tilde X_3, \qquad [\tilde X_2, \tilde X_3] = \tilde X_1, \qquad [\tilde X_3, \tilde X_1] = \tilde X_2,

which is the algebra of ##SL(2,\mathbb{R})##.

A Lie group is "compact" or "non-compact" depending on the eigenvalues of its Cartan-Killing form. If all the eigenvalues are negative, then the group is compact. If some of the eigenvalues are positive, then the group is non-compact. The Killing form of ##SL(2, \mathbb{R})## has signature ##(+, +, -)##, and it has the topology ##R^2 \times S^1##, so you see there are two noncompact directions, and one compact, matching the signs in the Killing form.

Both ##SU(2)## and ##SL(2,\mathbb{R})## algebras are subalgebras of ##SL(2, \mathbb{C})##, which is simply

[X_i, X_j] = \varepsilon_{ijk} X_k,
except that we allow complex linear combinations of the generators.
 
would it be possible to talk a bit more about the second part, the compactness or non-compactness of a Lie group?

In any case thank you very much.
 
Ben nicely touched the compactness of a Lie group from the compactness of its Lie algebra. But a group is a topological space on its own, so its compactness is defined in terms of open sets, open covers and subcovers.
 

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