What is the Potential Energy of a Spring Between Two Masses?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the potential energy of a spring connecting two masses, considering their displacements from a reference point. The problem involves concepts from mechanics and spring dynamics.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore different expressions for potential energy based on the spring's displacement and relaxed length. There is a consideration of simplifying the problem by focusing on the distance between the masses.

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Some participants have proposed potential energy formulas based on their interpretations of the spring's displacement. There is an ongoing exploration of how to express these formulas in terms of the distance between the masses and the relaxed length.

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Participants are questioning the relevance of specific coordinates and are considering alternative representations of the potential energy based on distance. The discussion reflects an effort to clarify assumptions regarding the setup of the problem.

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A planar object comprises of two masses joined by a linear spring with relaxed length p. The horizontal and the vertical displacements of the two masses are measured relative to a fixed point of reference as shown in the figure. What would be the potential energy of the spring?

My initial guess for this problem are that the spring will have a horizontal PE=(1/2)*k*(z-x)^2 and a vertical PE=(1/2)*k*(w-y)^2.

But something tells me that there might be the possibility of the PE=(1/2)*k*(sqrt(z^2+w^2)-p)^2-(1/2)*k*(sqrt(x^2+y^2)-p)^2.

Please help
 

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Forget the x and y coordinates for the moment. If the distance between the masses is d, how would you express the PE in terms of d and the relaxed length p?
 
In that case, I would assume it to be (1/2)*K*(d-p)^2
 
rakshit1992 said:
In that case, I would assume it to be (1/2)*K*(d-p)^2
OK. Express this in terms of the given quantities.
 

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