What is the probability that one is hired and one is not?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the probability that one member of a husband and wife pair is hired for a sales position while the other is not, among a total of 12 applicants for 5 positions. The conversation includes attempts to understand the combinatorial aspects of the problem and the correct application of probability principles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the sample space for hiring 5 out of 12 people is given by C(12, 5).
  • Another participant proposes that the probability of one person being hired can be represented as C(11, 4), assuming one position is filled.
  • A different participant questions how to account for the probability of not hiring one individual and suggests C(11, 5) but expresses uncertainty about the multiplication of probabilities.
  • One participant indicates that if only one of the couple is hired, the number of ways this can happen is given by C(2, 1), and prompts for consideration of the remaining positions and applicants.
  • A later reply states that the total number of ways one of the couple can be hired is C(2, 1) and combines this with the number of ways to fill the remaining positions from the other applicants as C(10, 4).
  • The same participant concludes with a proposed probability calculation of 35/66, based on the earlier combinatorial reasoning.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying degrees of understanding and approaches to the problem, with no consensus reached on the final probability calculation. Some participants agree on the combinatorial methods used, while others express uncertainty about specific steps in the reasoning.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the assumptions regarding the independence of events or the implications of the combinatorial choices made. There are also unresolved questions about the correct application of probability rules in this context.

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I cannot get past this question:

Assume that 12 people, including the husband and wife pair, apply for 5 sales positions. People are hired at random. What is the probability that one is hired and one is not?

The sample space is C(12, 5). I tried finding first the probability that one is hired, which I suppose it's C(11,4). However, I am not sure how I am supposed to go about with finding the probability for not hiring one. I assumed C(11, 5), but then it wouldn't work if I try to multiply it with C(11,4) to find the event of both situations happening at the same time.
 
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elimeli said:
I cannot get past this question:

Assume that 12 people, including the husband and wife pair, apply for 5 sales positions. People are hired at random. What is the probability that one is hired and one is not?

The sample space is C(12, 5). I tried finding first the probability that one is hired, which I suppose it's C(11,4). However, I am not sure how I am supposed to go about with finding the probability for not hiring one. I assumed C(11, 5), but then it wouldn't work if I try to multiply it with C(11,4) to find the event of both situations happening at the same time.

Hi elimeli,

You are on the right track but let's start with a simpler question. What is the probability of 1 person being hired for one of the positions?
 
Jameson said:
Hi elimeli,

You are on the right track but let's start with a simpler question. What is the probability of 1 person being hired for one of the positions?

Wouldn't it be C(11,4)? Because that would mean that somebody already took 1 job and 11 people would remain for the 4 vacant spots...?
 
Let's put it like this.

If only one of the two is hired then the number of ways this can happen is $$\binom{2}{1}$$. What about the other remaining positions?

Hint: There are 10 people remaining. How many jobs remaining?
 
Jameson said:
Let's put it like this.

If only one of the two is hired then the number of ways this can happen is $$\binom{2}{1}$$. What about the other remaining positions?

Hint: There are 10 people remaining. How many jobs remaining?

Since some time has passed I'll go ahead and post my solution to this problem.

The number of ways one of the two can be hired is $$\binom{2}{1}$$. For the remaining people and positions, the number of ways to allocate them is $$\binom{10}{4}$$.

As the OP correctly stated the sample space is $$\binom{12}{5}$$.

Putting this all together the probability is $$\frac{\binom{2}{1}\binom{10}{4}}{\binom{12}{5}}=\frac{35}{66}$$
 

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