What is the process of getting Published?

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The discussion revolves around the process of getting a research paper published, particularly focusing on the steps involved after a paper is written, the role of reviewers, and the variability in publication rates across different journals. The scope includes theoretical aspects of publication processes and practical experiences related to academic publishing.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe the initial review process, noting that reviewers typically make a first decision within a few weeks, but rejection rates can be around 70% depending on the journal.
  • There is mention of a two-stage review process, where after initial review, papers may undergo external peer review, with possible outcomes including provisional acceptance, requests for revisions, or outright rejection.
  • One participant highlights the variability in publication rates across different journals, citing that while the Astrophysical Journal has a publication rate of around 70%, journals like Nature and Science have rates below 5%.
  • Concerns are raised about the timeliness of published research in fields like astrophysics, where papers can take a year or more to reach a final decision, potentially rendering them outdated.
  • There is a discussion about the informal and formal peer review processes that may occur before significant discoveries are publicly announced, emphasizing the caution researchers take to avoid premature claims.
  • Some participants note that many papers in astronomy and astrophysics are based on observational or computational findings, rather than groundbreaking discoveries.

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Participants generally agree on the complexity and variability of the publication process, but there are differing views on the implications of publication rates and the timeliness of research dissemination. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best practices for handling significant discoveries before publication.

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Limitations include the dependence on specific journal policies, the subjective nature of what constitutes a significant discovery, and the lack of consensus on the effectiveness of current publication practices in rapidly evolving fields.

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Hi,

I was wondering what is the process of getting published. If I've been doing labwork for two years and my teacher said she'll be able to write up on this research soon. What happens after she finishes writing the paper? Where does it send to and who decides to get it "published" and how long does this take?

Thanks
 
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dreamworks said:
What happens after she finishes writing the paper? Where does it send to and who decides to get it "published" and how long does this take?

The process can be very complicated, not to mention frustrating, but also varies from journal to journal. Generally, there will be reviewers that will make a first decision on the submission within a few weeks - again it depends on the journal (and of course your work) but the journals I'm familiar with have ~70% rejection rates in this time.

After passing stage one, the paper may then go on to external peer review, and different types of specialist editors will have a look at it too. The decisions are then made. They can be from: provisionally accepted, requesting revisions or outright rejection. Very rarely does a paper get accepted on the first pass, almost always revisions need to be made albeit potentially minor ones.

The process then normally takes somewhere in the region of months but I have seen papers take upwards of a year to reach a final decision.

Your professor will be familiar with the process of the particular journal you're submitting to - you should ask them about it.
 
dreamworks said:
Hi,

I was wondering what is the process of getting published. If I've been doing labwork for two years and my teacher said she'll be able to write up on this research soon. What happens after she finishes writing the paper? Where does it send to and who decides to get it "published" and how long does this take?

Thanks

Please read Part XIII in the http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=df5w5j9q_5gj6wmt" essay. I think I covered most of what you asked here.

Zz.
 
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fasterthanjoao said:
Generally, there will be reviewers that will make a first decision on the submission within a few weeks - again it depends on the journal (and of course your work) but the journals I'm familiar with have ~70% rejection rates in this time.

Different journals and different fields have different philosophies. Astrophysical Journal has a publication rate of 70% of submissions, and in astrophysics the philosophy seems to be publish everything that isn't totally crazy and let readers sort it out. Nature and Science have <5% publication rates.

The process then normally takes somewhere in the region of months but I have seen papers take upwards of a year to reach a final decision.

This poses a problem with astrophysics since anything that is a year old is hopelessly outdated. This is why no one reads journals for current research, everyone just reads preprints. Technologically pretty much anyone can publish on the Los Alamos preprint server, but people are careful about what they upload, because they don't want to look like an idiot if they upload something really, really silly.

The other thing is that if you discover something really, really big (i.e. you contact space aliens), then you generally keep very quiet about it, and undergo a huge amount of informal and formal peer review before saying anything, because you don't want to look like a fool if you get it wrong. If you have fifty people look at something before going public, you might still get it wrong, but it won't be wrong because of something very, very silly.

However, most papers in astronomy and astrophysics are "I ran this computer program or I looked in the telescope, and this is what I found."
 

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