What is the Process to Find the Limit at Infinity of (x+(x^2+12x)^1/2)?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the limit as x approaches negative infinity for the expression (x + (x^2 + 12x)^(1/2)). Participants explore various methods and reasoning to analyze the limit, including algebraic manipulation and asymptotic behavior.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests multiplying and dividing by the conjugate to simplify the expression, leading to an undefined result.
  • Another participant asserts that the function diverges, implying that the limit does not exist.
  • There is a question about how to express the limit, with some suggesting it "equals" positive infinity.
  • One participant proposes that for large x, the expression simplifies to approximately 2x.
  • Another participant states that for large x, the leading term of the polynomial dominates, leading to a conclusion that the limit does not exist.
  • A different perspective indicates that as x approaches negative infinity, the expression behaves like -x + constant, suggesting a finite limit.
  • One participant acknowledges a mistake regarding the negative sign and indicates a need to rethink their approach.
  • A later reply claims the limit is -6, providing a detailed algebraic manipulation to support this conclusion.
  • Another participant agrees with the previous claim and offers a method to transform the limit from negative to positive infinity, leading to a clearer expression for evaluation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the limit's existence and value, with some asserting divergence while others propose finite limits. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on various assumptions about the behavior of polynomials and limits at infinity, with some steps in the algebraic manipulation remaining unclear or contested.

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Find the limit as x-> -infinity for (x+(x^2+12x)^1/2)

so first of all..i multiply and divide by the conjugent then i get...

-12x/(x-(x^2+12x)^1/2)

i divide by x in both the nummerator and denominator to get ...
-12/1-(1+12/x)^1/2

so the 12/x goes to 0 and the squroot of 1 is 1 so it appears to be

-12/1-1 which is undefined...that is not right

where am i going wrong
 
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Of course it is right. The function diverges.
 
so the limit does not exist?
or it is undefined

how can i express that
 
It "equals" positive infinity, if you like.
 
Simplify:
(x^2+12x)^1/2 ~ x for large x, therefore your expression is ~ 2x
 
For large x, a polynomials value is determined by its leading term. Since x is large, x^2 + 12x is x^2. That to ^1/2 is just x. x+x, 2x. Substitution, it doesn't exist.
 
The limit is as x goes to negative infinity. (x^2+12x)^1/2 looks like -x+const for x large and negative, so the series goes as x-x+const, and the limit is finite.
 
Sorry I didnt see the negative sign...Ill rethink that
 
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Dextercioby is, as usual, correct.

Replace the limit at [itex]-\infty[/itex] with a limit at [itex]\infty[/itex] by replacing x with -x:
[tex]lim_{x\rightarrow -\infty} x+ (x^2+ 12x)^{\frac{1}{2}}= lim{x\rightarrow\infty} (x^2- 12x)^{\frac{1}{2}}- x[/tex]
Multiply "numerator and denominator" by the conjugate:
[tex]lim_{x\rightarrow\infty}\frac{x^2-12x-x^2}{(x^2-12x)^{\frac{1}{2}}+ x}= lim_{x\rightarrow\infty}\frac{-12x}{(x^2-12x)^{\frac{1}{2}}+ x}[/tex]
Divide both numerator and denominator by x:
[tex]lim_{x\rightarrow\infty}\frac{-12}{(1-\frac{12}{x})^{\frac{1}{2}}+ 1}[/tex]

Now it is obvious that the numerator is -12 and the denominator goes to 2.
 

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