What is the Ray Tracing Diagram for a Concave Lens with f < do < R?

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The discussion centers on creating a ray tracing diagram for a concave lens under the condition where the object distance (do) is between the focal length (f) and the radius of curvature (R). The user correctly identifies the focal length as 5cm, leading to a radius of curvature of 10cm. By selecting an object distance of 7.5cm, they apply the lens formula (1/do + 1/di = 1/f) to find the image distance (si) as 0.15m, resulting in a magnification (M) of -2, indicating a real, inverted, and magnified image.

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  • Understanding of ray tracing techniques for lenses
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Homework Statement



I have a concave lens where f < do < R. I have to provide a ray tracing diagram.

The Attempt at a Solution



I drew the focal ray through the focus and parallel to the principal axis. I drew the principal ray parallel to the principal axis then through the focus. I drew a dashed line from the center past the object tip and to the lens.

This leads to a diagram where there are no converging lines. However, if I arbitrarily choose some numbers to confirm this... this is where I get confused.

I'll choose a focal length (f) of 5cm. This means that R must be 2f. So, R = 10cm.

I'll choose an so between 5cm and 10cm of 7.5cm.

Given that:

1/so + 1/si = 1/f

1/0.075m + 1/si = 1/0.05m

si = 0.15m

M = -0.15m/0.075m = -2

This is telling me that I have a real image that is inverted and magnified by a factor of two.

Confused. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Does your diargam look anything like this?

http://kottan-labs.bgsu.edu/teaching/workshop2001/chapter2_files/image008.gif
 
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