What is the Rebound Velocity of a Pea Bouncing off a Surface?

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The discussion revolves around the rebound velocity of a pea after it bounces off a surface, focusing on the change in momentum and the relationship between mass and velocity in this context.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the relationship between momentum and velocity, questioning the interpretation of change in momentum and how it relates to the velocities before and after the bounce. There are attempts to derive the rebound velocity using the given change in momentum and mass of the pea.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering insights into the definitions of momentum and velocity. Some have provided alternative perspectives on how to calculate the change in momentum, while others have clarified the distinction between speed and velocity. There is no explicit consensus, but various interpretations are being explored.

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There is a focus on the assumption that the speed before and after the bounce is the same, leading to discussions about the implications of this assumption on the calculations. Participants also note the importance of understanding the difference between speed and velocity in the context of momentum changes.

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Homework Statement



When an pea bounces off the surface, it exeriences a change of momentum of 0.0051.

Show that the rebound velocity of this pea is about 5m/s

Mass of pea = 5x10^-4

Homework Equations



m1v1 = m2v2

The Attempt at a Solution



So a change in momentum of 0.0051 means change in m1v1 = 0.0051

as we know the mass of the pea we can do

v2 = (m1v1)/m2
= 0.0051 / 5x10^-4

but my answer is a factor of 2 too big? What have I done wrong?

Thanks :)
 
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thomas49th said:
So a change in momentum of 0.0051 means change in m1v1 = 0.0051
No, the change in momentum = 0.0051, not the momentum.

Assume that the pea bounces off with the same speed as it landed. Careful: While the speed hasn't changed, the velocity sure has. What's the change in momentum?

Hint: mv1 ≠ mv2
 
mv1 = -mv2
 
Exactly. So what's the change in momentum?
 
mv1 -- mv2 = mv1 + mv2

mv1 + mv2 = 0.0051

m(v1 + v2) = 0.0051
v1 + v2 = 10.2
if say the speed before = speed after then v1 = v2:

2v1 = 10.2
v1 = 5.1m/s

TRADA!

also is it true that in the change of momentum only speed will change as mass is constant?THANKS :)
 
thomas49th said:
mv1 -- mv2 = mv1 + mv2

mv1 + mv2 = 0.0051

m(v1 + v2) = 0.0051
v1 + v2 = 10.2
if say the speed before = speed after then v1 = v2:

2v1 = 10.2
v1 = 5.1m/s

TRADA!
Good. Here's how I'd do it.

If we call the initial velocity V, then the final velocity will be -V (since the direction reverses). Thus the initial momentum is mV and the final momentum is -mV. The change in momentum is -mV -mV = -2mV. (The magnitude of the change is just 2mV.)

also is it true that in the change of momentum only speed will change as mass is constant?
The mass is constant but the velocity changes (not the speed).
 
sorted! Thanks a lot :)
 

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