What is the Relationship Between Power and Current in an Elevator's Engine?

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The problem involves an elevator running upwards at a constant speed, with a focus on the relationship between power and current in the elevator's engine. Key variables include the elevator's mass, opposing forces, voltage, and speed.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the current using energy equations but encounters difficulties with multiple variables. They later reformulate their equation, leading to a new expression for current. Some participants question the definition of opposing forces and whether gravity is included in that term.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the definition of opposing forces. Guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between power and force, but no consensus has been reached on the correctness of the original poster's reformulated equation.

Contextual Notes

There is ambiguity in the problem statement regarding the components of the opposing forces, specifically whether gravity is included or excluded. This uncertainty may affect the understanding of the problem and the derived equations.

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Homework Statement


An elevator is running upwards at the constant speed v. The magnitude of opposing forces is [tex]F_o[/tex]. The elevator's mass is [tex]m[/tex] and the voltage is [tex]V[/tex]
Find the magnitude current in the elevator's engine.

2. The attempt at a solution

I tried to solve this task by energy equations:
[tex]VI\Delta t = (mg+F_o)\Delta x[/tex]
But now I'm stuck. Two variables in one equation and it doesn't seem as if a simultaneous equation could by found.

Thank you for advice in advance.

EDIT:
Actually, I have just noticed that if we re-engineer this equation:
[tex]I = \frac{(mg+F_o)\Delta x}{V\Delta t}[/tex]
and [tex]\frac{dx}{dt} = v[/tex]
then:
[tex]I = \frac{mg+F_o}{V}v[/tex]
Is this answer correct?
 
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It's not clear from the problem statement what is included in ##F_o##, the "magnitude of opposing forces". Is it the net force acting against lifting the elevator (in which case it would include gravity) or is it just the sum of the friction forces (excluding gravity)?
 
gneill said:
It's not clear from the problem statement what is included in FoF_o, the "magnitude of opposing forces". Is it the net force acting against lifting the elevator (in which case it would include gravity) or is it just the sum of the friction forces (excluding gravity)?

Gravity is excluded.
 
Then your second attempt should give the correct result. Essentially you've inadvertently used the well known formula P = F*v, the power expended to maintain a constant velocity v is equal to the force required multiplied by the velocity.
 
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