What is the relationship between range and nullspace for projections?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the range and nullspace of projections in linear algebra, specifically focusing on the identities range(I-E) = nullspace(E) and nullspace(I-E) = range(E), where E is a projection and I is the identity matrix. Participants explore the theoretical implications and seek clarification on these concepts.

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  • One participant expresses difficulty in understanding the proof of the relationships between range and nullspace for projections, indicating a lack of clarity in the author's explanations.
  • Another participant suggests visualizing the concepts through orthogonal projections in \mathbb{R}^3 to gain intuition.
  • There is a discussion about the meaning of I - E and its implications for the kernel of E, with one participant questioning whether the kernel is always the null vector.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the definition of the kernel of a linear transformation, emphasizing that it consists of vectors that map to the zero vector in the codomain.
  • A participant attempts to connect the concepts by asking if the range of I - E corresponds to projections normal to a given plane, indicating a search for understanding of the geometric interpretation.
  • Another participant corrects the interpretation, stating that the range of I - E is indeed the range of the projection I - E, which is also a projection, and notes that the results are applicable in more general linear spaces beyond Euclidean spaces.

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Participants exhibit a mix of understanding and confusion regarding the concepts discussed. While some points are clarified, there remains uncertainty and differing interpretations about the implications of the relationships between range and nullspace for projections.

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Participants express varying levels of familiarity with the concepts, indicating that the discussion may be limited by assumptions about prior knowledge of linear transformations and projections. The discussion also highlights the potential for different interpretations in spaces without a notion of orthogonality.

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Hi!
Studying the introductory chapters of a Operator Theory book, I have found that the author seem to find a lot of demonstrations "easy" and not worthy of demonstrations. Yet, I don't have such ease as he has... For instance, one that has bugged me (on several books) is the proof that:
range(I-E)=nullspace(E)
nullspace(I-E)=range(E)
where E is a projection and I is the identity matrix.
It always follows stating that its is simple, then, to tell the set of all surjective projections of a linear transformation L.

How are they related? I can't seem to find any way to prove/answer the above and its been a couple of days now.

Can anyone shed some light in this? I'd really appreciate it!


Thanks!

Felipe
 
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First, you may acquire some intuiton about it by drawing a picture of an orthogonal projection in [itex]\mathbb{R}^3[/itex].

Second, consider the first equality range(I - E) = ker(E). Suppose y belongs to range(I - E): then you may write it, in terms of I - E, how? What must Ey be equal to? On the other hand, if Ey = 0, what is (E - I)y?
 
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JSuarez said:
First, you may acquire some intuiton about it by drawing a picture of an orthogonal projection in [itex]\mathbb{R}^3[/itex].

Second, consider the first equality range(I - E) = ker(E). Suppose y belongs to range(I - E): then you may write it, in terms of I - E, how? What must Ey be equal to? On the other hand, if Ey = 0, what is (E - I)y?


Well... maybe the thing is that I don't fully understand what I-E is, as a matter of fact.
One of the things I remember is that ker(E)={0}, the null vector. Or is it just for linear spaces?
 
Well... maybe the thing is that I don't fully understand what I-E is, as a matter of fact.

Consider a 2D plane P in [itex]\matbb{R}^3[/itex] and a vector v, not in P; then, if E is the orthogonal projection on P, then (I - E)v is the orthogonal projection on normal to the plane P.

One of the things I remember is that ker(E)={0}

No, this is wrong. The kernel of a linear transformation [itex]T:V\rightarrow W[/itex] is the set:

[tex]ker\left(T\right)=\left\{v\in V:Tv=0\right\}[/tex]

Where the 0 is the null vector of W.

Here's a hint:

[tex]y \in R \left(I - E\right) \Leftrightarrow \exists x \in V:y=\left(I - E\right)x[/tex]

Now remember that E is a projection, so E2=E.
 
JSuarez said:
No, this is wrong. The kernel of a linear transformation [itex]T:V\rightarrow W[/itex] is the set:

[tex]ker\left(T\right)=\left\{v\in V:Tv=0\right\}[/tex]

Where the 0 is the null vector of W.

Here's a hint:

[tex]y \in R \left(I - E\right) \Leftrightarrow \exists x \in V:y=\left(I - E\right)x[/tex]

Now remember that E is a projection, so E2=E.

Oh yeah, I remember E2=E... used it plenty today!

So, let me try to get things straight: [tex]R(I - E)[/tex] is the collectiong of all projections normal to the plane P (like the one in the example you gave)?
 
So, let me try to get things straight: R(I - E) is the collectiong of all projections normal to the plane P (like the one in the example you gave)?

No, R(I - E) is the range of the projection I - E (if E is a projection, I - E is also one). In euclidian spaces, you may interpret this as the subspace orthogonal to P, but the results you are trying to prove are more general than that; they are valid for linear spaces whithout a notion of orthogonality (usually given by an inner product).
 

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