What is the relationship between standing waves, tension, and velocity?

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The discussion focuses on the relationship between standing waves, tension, and velocity, specifically using the equations v=f(wavelength) and v=sqrt(F/(m/L)). The participants analyze various scenarios involving frequency and tension changes, concluding that while frequency affects wavelength, the velocity remains constant if tension is unchanged. The calculations for the second harmonic and the implications of changing tension are also explored, highlighting that tripling tension alters the wavelength but must still conform to the conditions of standing waves.

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Homework Statement


see question 2a, b

Homework Equations


a) v=f(wavelength)
b) v= sqrt(F/(m/L))

The Attempt at a Solution


a) f=2.5 Hz, t=1.0 s and one wavelength on the graph is I guess 0.4 m?
v=2.5(.4)=1 m/s
b) f=5.0 Hz, tension same
v= sqrt(F/(m/L)) means that a change in frequency will not change the velocity?
1=5(wavelength)
wavelength= 0.2 m?


Homework Statement


see question 3a, b

Homework Equations


fn=(n/2L)(sqrt(F/(m/L))

The Attempt at a Solution


a)since this is a second harmonic, f2 = 2(2/L)(sqrt(F/(m/L)) = (1/L)(sqrt(F/(m/L))... wavelength = L

quadrupling F would mean that f=(1/L)(sqrt(4F/(m/L)) = (2/L)(sqrt(F/(m/L))
since f does not change, only way that these two will be equal is if the above is divided by 2
(2/2L)(sqrt(F/(m/L)) = (1/L)(sqrt(F/(m/L))
thus wavelength = 2L, so the new picture should just contain half of the wave?

b)tripling tension would mean that wavelength = sqrt(3)L... this shouldn't be possible right? since a standing wave needs to be connected at both ends (nodes) and having a wavelength of 1.7L would not connect on one end...please help! thanks
 
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I think you should start off by looking at the first calculation. You've picked up an extra factor of 10 somewhere.
 
edited, but do things seem right or are they wrong 2b and 3a, b are the ones I am not sure on
 

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