What Is the Role of Ethanol in Precipitating Salts?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the role of ethanol in precipitating salts during a chemical process, specifically in the context of a homework question. Participants explore the effects of ethanol on the polarity of the solution and its implications for salt solubility.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that adding ethanol makes the liquid phase less polar, which could lead to decreased solubility of the salt and subsequent precipitation.
  • Another participant challenges the characterization of ethanol as hydrophobic, arguing that it has a lower dielectric constant and is less effective at solvation compared to water.
  • A later reply proposes that a mixture of ethanol and water is less polar than water alone, which could explain the reduced solubility of the salt.
  • There are requests for simpler explanations suitable for an A2 level understanding, indicating a need for clarity on the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the characterization of ethanol's properties and its role in the precipitation process. There is no consensus on the best explanation for the effect of ethanol on salt solubility.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention concepts like dielectric constant and solvation effectiveness, which may require further clarification for those unfamiliar with these terms. The discussion does not resolve the complexities surrounding the interactions of ethanol, water, and salts.

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Homework Statement




what is the purpose of adding ethanol in step 5 in the following description?

http://www.creative-chemistry.org.uk...s/N-ch5-08.pdf

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Does adding ethanol make the liquid phase (which is now a homogenous mixture) less polar because ethanol is slighly hydrophobic hence the salt is less soluble so precipitates out?
 
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But your explanation is more or less what could be expected.
 
Borek said:
Link is broken.

But your explanation is more or less what could be expected.

http://www.creative-chemistry.org.uk/alevel/module5/documents/N-ch5-08.pdf
 
I don't think calling ethanol hydrophobic is the best approach. It has a lower dielectric constant and because of its size it is not as effective at solvation, so it doesn't isolate ions as effectively as water does.
 
Borek said:
I don't think calling ethanol hydrophobic is the best approach. It has a lower dielectric constant and because of its size it is not as effective at solvation, so it doesn't isolate ions as effectively as water does.

would it please be possible then to give me an A2 level answer (i don't know about dielectric constant) that would gain 1 or 2 marks?

thanks
 
Borek said:
I don't think calling ethanol hydrophobic is the best approach. It has a lower dielectric constant and because of its size it is not as effective at solvation, so it doesn't isolate ions as effectively as water does.

would the following be better:

"the homogeneous mixture of ethanol and water is less polar that water alone so the salt is less soluble and hence precipitates out
 
jsmith613 said:
the homogeneous mixture of ethanol and water is less polar that water alone so the salt is less soluble and hence precipitates out

Sounds good to me.
 

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