What is the route to becoming a doctor or a physician in US/Canada?

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The discussion revolves around the educational pathway to becoming a doctor or physician in the US and Canada, focusing on undergraduate requirements, the MCAT, and the structure of medical school and residency. It includes considerations of different majors, particularly physics, and the implications of competition in medical school admissions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses curiosity about the route to becoming a doctor, noting that a physics degree may help with the MCAT.
  • Another participant clarifies that in the US, any major is acceptable for medical school as long as premed classes are completed, including biology, chemistry, physics, math, and English.
  • It is mentioned that physics majors tend to perform well on the MCAT compared to other majors.
  • Concerns are raised about the perceived necessity of taking additional courses alongside a physics major, with some participants questioning whether this extends the duration of the degree to six years.
  • One participant points out that requirements can vary by school, and some Canadian medical schools may only require two years of undergraduate education, although a full degree is often pursued due to competition.
  • There is a sentiment expressed regarding the challenges posed by high competition for medical school admissions, leading to longer educational paths for prospective students.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of additional coursework for a physics degree and the implications of competition in medical school admissions. There is no consensus on the optimal path or requirements for becoming a physician.

Contextual Notes

Participants note variability in medical school requirements and the impact of competition on educational pathways, which may lead to differing experiences and outcomes based on individual circumstances and institutional policies.

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No I am not becoming a doctor, I am just curious. Whati s the route because at a physics curriculum talk, the prof talked about having a BS in Physics helps the "MCAT"

I thought you have to have a degree in Biochemistry to apply to med school (is it like 4 years and then another 2yrs as an interin? That's how it was for that guy from Scrubs)

Shed some light thank you?
 
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In the US, you can major in anything and apply to med school as long as you take the premed classes - 2 semesters of bio, 4 semesters of chem (organic and inorganic), 2 semesters of physics, math through calculus, and English. Physics majors tend to score higher on the MCAT than most other majors, but any major is fine. After the bachelors, it's 4 years of med school, followed by 3-5 years of residency - one year of internship, two more for internal medicine/GP/pediatrics (like JD on scrubs) and four more for surgical residencies (like Turk).
 
So their BS in Physics will take 6 years? "2 sem of bio, 4 sem of chem, ..."
 
flyingpig said:
So their BS in Physics will take 6 years? "2 sem of bio, 4 sem of chem, ..."

Most people would just take the courses at same time as the courses required for their major. There's no need to spend an extra 2 years.
 
flyingpig said:
So their BS in Physics will take 6 years? "2 sem of bio, 4 sem of chem, ..."

I'm pretty sure the other poster meant semester courses, not actual entire semesters.

But the requirements certainly vary from school to school. In fact, my school's program doesn't require any subjects, though it recommends helpful subjects without taking them into consideration for admission.
Also, I know that many if not most MD schools here in Canada actually only require 2 years of undergrad, but competition is so high that a degree has become the de-facto minimum requirement. It's kinda sad that students have to take 2 extra years just because of high competition when we always seem to be suffering from a chronic shortage of doctors.
 

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