What is the secret behind Shi Yan Ming's extraordinary punching power?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the extraordinary punching power of Shi Yan Ming, exploring the physics and mental aspects behind striking power in martial arts. Participants share personal experiences, observations, and seek to analyze the mechanics and techniques involved in effective punching.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a friend's mastery of striking power, attributing it to "perfect motion" and a lack of fear when striking, comparing it to a bullet's trajectory.
  • Another participant mentions the concept of "directing power below the surface" as a technique used by Shi Yan Ming to avoid causing bruising while delivering powerful strikes.
  • There are claims of Shi Yan Ming's ability to control opponents with minimal effort, suggesting a unique understanding of movement and intention.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the metaphysical aspects of the discussion, suggesting that it may not align with the scientific focus of the forum.
  • References to Bruce Lee's techniques and the importance of mental and physical training in achieving striking power are introduced, with a suggestion to explore scientific literature on the topic.
  • Links to various resources and studies on the physics of martial arts and Shi Yan Ming's abilities are provided for further exploration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of discussing metaphysical concepts in relation to martial arts. While some seek scientific explanations, others emphasize the mental aspects of striking power. There is no consensus on the nature of Shi Yan Ming's abilities or the best approach to understanding them.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the need for reliable references to support extraordinary claims made about punching power and techniques. The discussion includes a mix of personal anecdotes and requests for scientific validation.

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How Can A Slow Punch From an Average Size Guy Generate More Force Than a Fast Strong Heavy 6th Degree Black Belt with Brick Smashing Guinness Book Records?
Hi everyone. So my attempt to try and understand something has led me here.

A friend of mine and myself since we've been teenagers in the 80's have studied and enjoyed the martial arts. He much more so than me but nonetheless I've been around it and seen a lot of things, felt a lot of strikes and have some understanding of the science of striking power. But I'm wondering if someone here can do a good job of helping me understand it more.

He is known all over the world for having the ability to punch with such deep penetrating force that it's hard to even fathom. He's studied striking power and obsessed over it since we were kids. In the last 15 years I've watched and felt his power get even more bizarre, it humbles the most seasoned of fighting arts veterans. This isn't some weird left field praying in a corner with crystals kind of thing.

When we discuss it he says it has to do with perfect motion. He shares for example if you've ever hit your shin on a coffee table at 3am as you stumble to the kitchen or bathroom in the dark you'll gain some understanding. 1) You didn't know the table was there. 2) The table didn't know you were there. 3) Your mass and your mind were unaware completely you were about to hit the table. He says when most people punch they have fear of being hit themselves by the opponent and they see the opponent as the target. The "trick" which he's spent 30 of his 40 years mastering he says is having NO FEAR, thinking more like a bullet (if bullets thought) in that you go through uninterrupted the opponent before you. Which he claims is the 90% of understanding.

The other 10% he says is perfect motion. Like a door on a hinge. The door example indeed brings up the couple times I've slammed fingers in a door. ANYWAY... one martial artist I interviewed told me he'd expected to come home all bruised after a session working with Sam. To his surprise there was no bruising. He said NEVER had he felt that kind of power and from any angle and any distance at will Sam could hit him. When he asked Sam how come there was no bruising, he replied, "because I directed it below the surface".

Even on the ground grappling a flick of the wrist is all it takes and it will end any grappling move or hold. One guy I know holds world records for smashing bricks. He's 6'3" tall 300 pounds and mostly muscle. He also holds 2 blackbelts 6th and 7th degree. He said and I quote, "Sam toys with me. I'm not afraid of anyone but Sam scares the #$^@ out of me. Nobody can throw me around or hit me at will like Sam".

This leads me to two last things in trying to understand the physics of this. He can also with a single finger pointing out move you anywhere he wants walking at a normal pace this too he says has to do with perfect motion. AND he can take an all out full on blast from guys that fight professionally. To the gut or chest. He says that has to do with stealing someones intention among other things. So yeah, jedi mind tricks come to play here too. I've experienced this personally many times.

I might add that if you watch it, it's not impressive. I'd add too that unlike seeing a guy hit a bodybag to have it fold around his hand and jump to the ceiling... that doesn't happen when he strikes a bag. But then a bullet wouldn't move a bag either...? HE CAN make a bag dance but he is quick to point out that "that" is not this (picture lol magic fist).

Can anyone expand on the physics of this?
 
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You are asking about metaphysics which is probably inappropriate for this forum.
 
Fred Wright said:
You are asking about metaphysics which is probably inappropriate for this forum.
Fred Wright said:
You are asking about metaphysics which is probably inappropriate for this forum.
That's a good point. I guess I was thinking "science" minded people tend to (In my experience) dispense with supernatural. They tend to look for an answer employing science. I thought someone might have an interesting angle.
 
danboy777 said:
That's a good point. I guess I was thinking "science" minded people tend to (In my experience) dispense with supernatural. They tend to look for an answer employing science. I thought someone might have an interesting angle.
Welcome to PhysicsForums.

We require good links and references as starting points for technical discussions here. Your post is filled with extraordinary statements which need to be justified with reliable links. Not links to blogs and YouTube videos -- links to scientific publications looking at things like the physics of a punch. We have a number of folks on the forum who practice martial arts regularly, so as long as you improve this thread start with some good reference, it could lead to a good discussion.

Thank you. :smile:
 
While there is a lot of science behind power punching, on an individual basis, it comes down to mental and physical training. During interviews with Bruce Lee, he often spoke of concentrating all the force he could, into a blow. While youtube videos aren't the most informative of media, they are good visual aids. Some of the footage of Bruce Lee demostrating his 1 inch punch (actually more than an inch but impressive nevertheless) have commentary that help illustrate some of his techneque to concentrate his force. This one of many - - may shed some light on how he accomplished this.
 
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