What is the shape of the curve z = x^2 + 2y^2 and how can it be sketched?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the shape of the curve defined by the equation z = x² + 2y², with participants exploring its geometric properties and how to sketch it effectively. The subject area includes concepts related to surfaces in three-dimensional space, specifically elliptic paraboloids.

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  • Participants discuss the nature of the surface, with some suggesting it is an elliptic paraboloid while questioning the implications of the coefficient in front of the y² term. There are inquiries about the standard form of the equation and how to derive the parameters for the ellipses formed by cross-sections at different z values.

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The conversation is progressing with participants sharing insights about the characteristics of the surface and the importance of cross-sections. Some have expressed initial confusion but are beginning to clarify their understanding of how the surface behaves in different planes.

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Participants are grappling with visualizing the curve and its implications in different coordinate planes, noting that the presence of the coefficient affects the shape of the cross-sections. There is an acknowledgment of the challenge in sketching the surface accurately.

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Sketch the curve z = x2 + 2y2

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: [/B]The easiest thing to do is to sketch the traces at x, y and z = 0. I'm 95% sure its an elliptic paraboloid, but the 2 in front of the Y is really throwing me off. Should we divide everything by 2 and have an ellipse with a radius of √2 and 1? If that's the case then when we set Y to 0 ( for example ) we get z = 2x2 and were right back where we started...Im kinda lost here.
 
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For a given ## z=z_o ## in a plane parallel to the x-y plane we have ## z_o=x^2+2y^2 ## which, can be put in the standard form on ellipse with ## \frac{x^2}{a^2}+\frac{y^2}{b^2}=1 ##. What is ## a ## and ## b ## for this case? ## \\ ## The case where you looked at the plane ## y=0 ## is correct, in that going upward in ## z ##, a cross section of this thing is a parabola. The cross section through any plane ## Ax+By=0 ## , will give a parabola of the form ## z=C (x')^2 ## where ## x' ## is the coordinate along this plane perpendicular to ## z##.
 
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tensor0910 said:
I'm 95% sure its an elliptic paraboloid, but the 2 in front of the Y is really throwing me off. Should we divide everything by 2 and have an ellipse with a radius of √2 and 1?
The coefficient of 2 on the y2 term is why this surface is an elliptic paraboloid. If that coefficient had been 1, all the horizontal sections would have been circular. All of the horizontal cross-sections (i.e., in planes parallel to the x-y plane) are ellipses, except for when both x and y are zero.

Sketching traces is a good start, but you should also include cross sections or level curves for various values of z.

For example, when z = 0, you get a single point. When z= 1, the cross section is the ellipse ##x^2 + 2y^2 = 1##. The same thinkiing applies for other values of ##z \ge 0##.

Edit: Cross-sections are especially helpful when you have the sum of squares of two of the variables (cross sections are circles) or expressions like ##ax^2 + by^2## (elliptical cross sections). This advice applies not just for expressions involving x and y, but any two of the variables.
 
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I'm starting to get it.

I was doubting my answers b/c I was having trouble visualizing the sketch ( a huge weakness of mine ). I thought that an elliptic paraboloid would make
perfect parabolas on the yz and xz plane, but if that were the case the sketch would turn into a circle. I'm back on track now. Thanks for the help!
 
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They make "perfect" parabolas on the yz and xz plane, but they are not identical parabolas. The parabola on the yz plane is ## z=2y^2 ##, and the parabola on the xz plane is ## z=x^2 ##.
 

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