What is the solution for t when $-0.1143e^{-\frac{2t^2}{3}}= -199$?

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation $-0.1143e^{-\frac{2t^2}{3}}= -199$, which appears to be part of a larger problem involving differential equations and initial conditions. Participants explore the steps involved in manipulating the equation and integrating a related differential equation.

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  • One participant presents a differential equation and begins to separate variables for integration.
  • Another participant confirms the correctness of the integration steps and suggests using logarithmic properties to simplify the equation further.
  • A participant notes issues with LaTeX rendering and expresses confusion about the notation used.
  • Further simplification of the equation is proposed, leading to a form that relates $y$ to $t$ through an exponential function.
  • One participant references a book answer and mentions that various inputs were tried to reach a specific value of 3.98.
  • A later reply calculates a specific value for $y_0$ and derives the equation $-0.1143e^{\frac{2t^2}{3}}$ based on that value.
  • The goal is stated to solve for $t$ in the equation $-0.1143e^{-\frac{2t^2}{3}}= -199$.

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Participants generally agree on the steps taken so far in manipulating the equations, but there is no consensus on the final solution for $t$, as the discussion remains focused on the process rather than arriving at a definitive answer.

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There are unresolved aspects regarding the manipulation of logarithmic and exponential functions, as well as the interpretation of initial conditions and their impact on the solution.

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$y'=ty\dfrac{4-y}{3};\quad y{0}=y_0$
separate

$\dfrac{3}{y(4-y)}\ dy=t\ dt$
integrate
$3\left(\frac{1}{4}\ln \left|y\right|-\frac{1}{4}\ln \left|y-4\right|\right)=\dfrac{t^2}{2}+c$

hopefully so far...

actually it kinda foggy what they are eventually asking for

also why is t in different cases
 
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Yes, that is correct so far! Now, you might use the facts that $rlog(x)= log(x^r)$ and $log(a)- log(b)= log(a/b)$. And you can get rid of the logarithm by taking the exponential on both sides.
 
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for some reason your latex didn't render with I thot it was supposed to be [math]{/math] or $$<br /> <br /> I assume the 3 has to distributed and an exponent[/math]
 
Write it as $\frac{3}{4}log\left|\frac{y}{y- 4}\right|= t^2/2+ c$
$log\left|\frac{y}{y- 4}\right|= \frac{2}{3}t^2+ C$
$\frac{y}{y- 4}= C'e^{\frac{2t^2}{3}}$

And, with $y(0)= y_0$, $\frac{y_0}{y_0- 4}=C'$.
so $\frac{y}{y- 4}= \frac{y_0}{y_0- 4}e^{\frac{2t^2}{3}}$.
 
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ok here is the book answer to (b)
assume various inputs were tried to get to 3.98
 
Part (b) told you that $x_0= 0.5$ so $\frac{y_0}{y_0-4}= \frac{0.5}{0.5- 4}= \frac{0.4}{-3.5}= -.01143$.

$\frac{y}{y- 4}= -0.1143e^{\frac{2t^2}{3}}$.

We want y to be 3.98 so $\frac{y}{y- 4}= \frac{3.98}{3.98- 4}= -\frac{3.98}{0.02}= -199
$.

Solve $-0.1143e^{-\frac{2t^2}{3}}= -199$.
 

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