What is the solution to the self-reference problem in fields?

  • Context: Graduate 
  • Thread starter Thread starter nomadreid
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Fields
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The self-reference problem in fields, particularly in the context of electric fields around charged particles like electrons, is resolved through the process of renormalization. This issue arises when considering the infinite strength of the field at zero distance from the electron itself. By assuming the electron is small but not pointlike, physicists replace infinite quantities with large but finite ones, ensuring that measurable quantities remain independent of the electron's exact size. Perturbation theory plays a crucial role in this framework.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of electric fields and the inverse square law
  • Familiarity with quantum field theory concepts
  • Knowledge of perturbation theory in physics
  • Basic grasp of renormalization techniques
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the principles of quantum field theory and its applications
  • Explore perturbation theory in greater detail
  • Research the concept of renormalization in quantum electrodynamics
  • Examine case studies involving self-interaction in particle physics
USEFUL FOR

Physicists, students of quantum mechanics, and researchers interested in advanced theoretical physics concepts, particularly those dealing with field theories and particle interactions.

nomadreid
Gold Member
Messages
1,773
Reaction score
256
This is a well-known problem, the solution I have read a long time ago, but apparently never completely understood, and now am not sure where to look to try again. This concerns the action of a field, say an electric field around an electron, for definitiveness. The electric field affects all charged particles with a strength according to the inverse square law. So far, classical. However, one of the charged particles in the field is that electron itself, and since the distance from it to itself is zero, we get an infinite strength; also one could see it as accumulating an exponentially growing number of virtual carrier particles. Since this does not happen, how does this "self-reference" work itself out? I presume perturbation theory works itself into this somewhere.
Thanks in advance.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Basically, it works like this. You assume that the electron is small but not exactly pointlike, which replaces infinite quantities by large but finite ones. Then you rename certain not directly measurable quantities in the theory such that the measurable ones do not depend on the exact size of the electron. This procedure is called renormalization.
 
Thanks, Demystifier. That is a big help.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K
  • · Replies 29 ·
Replies
29
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
3K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
4K
  • · Replies 75 ·
3
Replies
75
Views
10K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 30 ·
2
Replies
30
Views
4K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
1K
  • · Replies 0 ·
Replies
0
Views
873