What is the sum of the two separate series in the original infinite series?

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The discussion revolves around determining the convergence of the series Ʃ∞n=1 (1 + 2n)/3n and finding its sum if it converges. Participants are exploring the nature of the series, identifying it as a geometric series, and discussing the values of 'a' for the separate components.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to identify the series as geometric and express it in terms of its components, questioning the values of 'a' for each part. There is confusion regarding the application of the geometric series formula and the limits of summation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and clarifications about the series' components and convergence. Some guidance has been offered regarding the separation of the series and the definitions involved, but no consensus has been reached on the interpretation of the values of 'a'.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the series is defined from n=1 to infinity, which has implications for the values of 'a' in the geometric series formula. There is a noted confusion regarding the limits of summation and their effect on the series' convergence.

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Homework Statement



Determine whether the serie is convergent or divergent , if it is convergent find its sum.

Ʃn=1 (1 + 2n )/ 3n

Homework Equations



Ʃa(r)n-1 = a / (1-r) r < 1 is converging or if r > 1 diverging

The Attempt at a Solution



Well I can see its a geometric series so i did Ʃ (1/3)^n + (2/3)^n and r < 1 therefore its convergent but I can't figure out the a. I thought it would be one but the answer key says 1/3 and 2/3 as the a for both series
 
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MarcL said:

Homework Statement



Determine whether the serie is convergent or divergent , if it is convergent find its sum.

Ʃn=1 (1 + 2n )/ 3n

Homework Equations



Ʃa(r)n-1 = a / (1-r) r < 1 is converging or if r > 1 diverging

The Attempt at a Solution



Well I can see its a geometric series so i did Ʃ (1/3)^n + (2/3)^n and r < 1 therefore its convergent but I can't figure out the a. I thought it would be one but the answer key says 1/3 and 2/3 as the a for both series

Find the sum for (1/3)^n and (2/3)^n separately and then add them. They don't have to have a common value of a. The whole series isn't geometric. Only the parts are.
 
Oh I know I mean, the a value for (1/3)^n is said to be 1/3 while the one for (2/3)^n is said to be 2/3. I don't understand how the this came to be. I thought a in each case was 1
 
MarcL said:
Oh I know I mean, the a value for (1/3)^n is said to be 1/3 while the one for (2/3)^n is said to be 2/3. I don't understand how the this came to be. I thought a in each case was 1

Your formula in the "Relevant equations" section isn't right or wrong until you put some limits on the summation like you did in the problem statement. What are they?
 
oh sorry its n=1 to infinity. My bad I hadn't notice that!
 
MarcL said:
oh sorry its n=1 to infinity. My bad I hadn't notice that!

Then that makes the a's what the problem solution suggests, right?
 
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I feel so dumb... I was so use to n-1 I assumed right away r = 1 due to the exponent for the first term. Dear, let's hope rest will make me smarter for my final. Thanks a lot Dick for bearing through this question haha!
 
MarcL said:
I feel so dumb... I was so use to n-1 I assumed right away r = 1 due to the exponent for the first term. Dear, let's hope rest will make me smarter for my final. Thanks a lot Dick for bearing through this question haha!

You are pretty smart if you figured that out so quickly given the hint. You'll do fine. Just pay attention to details. Like limits on summations.
 
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MarcL said:

Homework Statement



Determine whether the serie is convergent or divergent , if it is convergent find its sum.

Ʃn=1 (1 + 2n )/ 3n

Homework Equations



Ʃa(r)n-1 = a / (1-r) r < 1 is converging or if r > 1 diverging

The Attempt at a Solution



Well I can see its a geometric series so i did Ʃ (1/3)^n + (2/3)^n and r < 1 therefore its convergent but I can't figure out the a. I thought it would be one but the answer key says 1/3 and 2/3 as the a for both series

Don't forget that an infinite series is defined as the limit of a finite sum, so
S = \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{1+2^n}{3^n}
is defined as
S = \lim_{N \to \infty} \sum_{n=1}^{N} \frac{1+2^n}{3^n}
For finite N the sum can be split into two obvious parts, and both parts converge separately as ##N \to \infty.## It follows that the original infinite series is the sum of the two separate series, each of which is a convergent geometric series.
 

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