What Is the Tangential Speed of Your Foot When It Hits the Floor?

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The problem involves determining the tangential speed of a foot just before it hits the floor after falling freely from a vertical position. The scenario is modeled using a leg treated as a uniform rod pivoting at the hip, with a specified length.

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  • Participants discuss using conservation of energy principles and the kinetic energy formula to approach the problem. There are questions about the application of these concepts, particularly regarding the setup of energy equations and the role of external forces.

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Some participants have offered guidance on using energy conservation and have attempted to clarify the equations involved. There is ongoing confusion about the correct application of these principles, and multiple interpretations of the energy equations are being explored.

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Participants express uncertainty about the initial conditions and the assumptions regarding the leg's motion and pivot point. There is mention of the center of mass and its relevance to the calculations, indicating a potential area of misunderstanding.

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After doing some exercises on the floor, you are lying on your back with one leg pointing straight up. If you allow your leg to fall freely until it hits the floor, what is the tangential speed of your foot just before it lands? Assume the leg can be treated as a uniform rod x = 0.79 m long that pivots freely about the hip.
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I have no idea what to do am i suppose to use Conservation of Energy to solve this problem or use this formula K=(1/2)mv^2[1+(I/mr^2)] I have no idea where to start.
 
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You should use energy conservation with the kinetic energy given by the expression above. You should also understand why it is possible to use energy conservation, when there is clearly an external force acting on the system.
 
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I still don't understand what to do. Are you saying that I should use this formula E_{i}=E_{f}
so than
mgh+(1/2)mv^2[1+mr^2/mr^2]=0
v=sqrt(gh)
but i still get the wrong answer. What should i do? Where did i go wrong?
 
will_lansing said:
I still don't understand what to do. Are you saying that I should use this formula E_{i}=E_{f}
Yes.

so than
mgh+(1/2)mv^2[1+mr^2/mr^2]=0
I can not make any sense of that equation. Could you please start from Ei=Ef, and substitute step by step and show what you get? Also, explain all the terms in the expressions you use. This is not so hard if you are just a little careful.
 
Ei=mgh
Ef=(1/2)mv^2[1+(1/2)mr^2/mr^2]
mgh=(1/2)mv^2[1+(1/2)]
the mass cancels out
gh=(3/4)mv^2
v=\sqrt{(4/3)gh}
v=\sqrt{(4/3)(9.81)(.79}
v=3.2m/s

Is this how you are suppose to do it? I really don't know. Please help
 
solved it. forgot about the center of mass bit.
 
h=x/2 is what i mean about using the center of mass
 

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