What is the tension in a climber's rope while rappelling down a cliff?

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The problem involves a climber of mass 64.8 kg rappelling down a cliff while momentarily paused against a frictionless rock face. The setup includes a rope attached to her waist, and the task is to calculate the tension in the rope.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to find the angle of the rope using trigonometric relationships, but some express uncertainty about the correctness of their calculations. There are questions regarding the acceleration of the climber and the relevance of the equations provided.

Discussion Status

Some participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem and questioning the assumptions made about the climber's position and the forces acting on her. Guidance has been offered regarding the need to clarify calculations and assumptions, but no consensus has been reached on the approach to take.

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There is mention of confusion regarding the problem's title and its relation to the content in the textbook, as well as the climber's body orientation during the rappel.

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Homework Statement


A climber of mass 64.8 kg is rappelling down a cliff, but has momentarily paused. She stands with her feet pressed against the icy, frictionless rock face and her body horizontal. A rope of negligible mass is attached to her near her waist, 1.04 m horizontally from the rock face. There is 5.25 m of rope between her waist and where the rope is attached to a chock in the face of the vertical wall she is descending. Calculate the tension in the rope.


Homework Equations


FL + (-mg cos theta) = 0
t + (-mg) = ma

The Attempt at a Solution


I think that I have to find the angle by using cos = adj./hyp. but that answer comes out very small and doesn't seem correct
or should I find the acceleration first and use t + (-mg) = ma
 
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lacar213 said:
FL + (-mg cos theta) = 0
t + (-mg) = ma

I think that I have to find the angle by using cos = adj./hyp. but that answer comes out very small and doesn't seem correct
or should I find the acceleration first and use t + (-mg) = ma

Hi lacar213! :smile:

(It would help if you actually showed us what you did … for example, what is your theta? :frown:)

I don't understand what you think the acceleration is … the rock isn't falling, is it? :redface:
 
1) What isthis titled "airplane at constant velocity"?

2) She has "her body horizontal"? ?? Why?
 
HallsofIvy said:
1) What isthis titled "airplane at constant velocity"?

2) She has "her body horizontal"? ?? Why?

"airplane at constant velocity" was the section in my book where this problem is from
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi lacar213! :smile:

(It would help if you actually showed us what you did … for example, what is your theta? :frown:)

I don't understand what you think the acceleration is … the rock isn't falling, is it? :redface:

The only thing I tried was finding the angle - but that doesn't seem correct, I don't know what to do from there. The equation going along with this problem is looking for LIFT which has nothing to do with the problem given. The tension equation contains acceleration
T + (-mg) = ma
 

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