What is the Total Work Equation for Changing an Object's Vertical Position?

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of work in relation to an object's vertical position and the associated changes in kinetic and potential energy. Participants are exploring the relationship between work, kinetic energy (KE), and potential energy (PE) in the context of mechanical energy.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand how work relates to changes in both kinetic and potential energy when an object moves vertically. They question the adequacy of the formula W = delta KE in this context and seek clarification on a potential new equation for total work.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the relationship between work and mechanical energy, with some suggesting that the total work can be expressed as W = delta E, encompassing both changes in KE and PE. There is a recognition of the conservation of mechanical energy, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive equation.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the original poster is only familiar with the equation W = delta KE, indicating a potential gap in understanding the broader context of mechanical energy and its components.

jcais
Messages
22
Reaction score
0
Hello,

If the work changes the object's velocity through a horizontal distance then:

W = delta KE

But, what if the work changes the object's vertical position. Then the object's mph changes. Would the Work formula be:

W = delta PE?

But, if something is moving upwards (y axis) then it has both a change in PE and KE. What would the new equation be for total work? I'm confused because we are only taught the W = delta KE equation.

Thank you. :-):approve:
 
Physics news on Phys.org
jcais said:
Hello,

If the work changes the object's velocity through a horizontal distance then:

W = delta KE

But, what if the work changes the object's vertical position. Then the object's mph changes. Would the Work formula be:

W = delta PE?

But, if something is moving upwards (y axis) then it has both a change in PE and KE. What would the new equation be for total work? I'm confused because we are only taught the W = delta KE equation.

Thank you. :-):approve:


Well, later in your textbook, or class, you will learn something call the conservation of mechincal( spell?) energy. which is:

W= delta E

where delta E is the sum of both delta PE , and delta KE plus... others(but you don t need to know yet)

Since you know PE, then i assume you also know that work done by a conservative force is path independent. Using the same generialization, you can compute delta E once you know the initial , and final state of the thing you called: system.
 
Last edited:
It's generally more helpful to ignore separate formulas and just remember that w = deltaME where ME is mechanical energy, and is, as kant said, the sum of kinetic and potential energy of an object in a system.
 
this formula w = deltaME I will for sure write down

thank you all for your help :-)
 

Similar threads

Replies
7
Views
2K
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
1K
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 23 ·
Replies
23
Views
2K
Replies
11
Views
3K
Replies
5
Views
1K
Replies
15
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
4K
Replies
2
Views
2K