What Is the Value of $\tan^2 a + 2\tan^2 b$ Given the Trigonometric Condition?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the expression $\tan^2 a + 2\tan^2 b$ under the constraint given by the trigonometric equality $2\sin a \sin b + 3\cos b + 6\cos a \sin b = 7$. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and problem-solving related to trigonometric identities and inequalities.

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  • One participant presents an approach to rewrite the trigonometric equality and derives conditions for the maximum and minimum values of the expressions involved, leading to a proposed solution of $\tan^2 a + 2\tan^2 b = 9$.
  • Another participant expresses gratitude for the contributions and solutions provided by others, indicating a collaborative effort in tackling the problem.
  • A later reply discusses a potential misunderstanding regarding the nature of the variables involved, clarifying that the functions' extreme values do not affect the validity of the problem's conditions.

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The discussion includes multiple competing views and interpretations regarding the solution to the problem, with no consensus reached on the validity of the proposed solution or the implications of the variable definitions.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the relationship between the variables and the conditions under which the trigonometric equality holds, highlighting potential assumptions that may affect the evaluation.

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Evaluate $\tan^2 a+2\tan^2 b$ if $a$ and $b$ satisfy the trigonometric equality $2\sin a \sin b+3\cos b+6\cos a \sin b=7$.
This is an unsolved problem I found @ AOPS.
 
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anemone said:
Evaluate $\tan^2 a+2\tan^2 b$ if $a$ and $b$ satisfy the trigonometric equality $2\sin a \sin b+3\cos b+6\cos a \sin b=7$.
[sp]Outline solution: Write the equation as $2\sin a + 6\cos a = \dfrac{7 - 3\cos b}{\sin b}$. The maximum of the absolute value of the left side is $\sqrt{40}$, occurring when $\cos a = 3\sqrt{40}/20$ (and therefore $\tan a = \pm1/3$). The minimum of the absolute value of the right side is also $\sqrt{40}$, occurring when $\cos b = 1/3$ (and therefore $\tan b = \pm\sqrt{40}/3$). So the equation only holds when both those conditions are satisfied, in other words $\tan^2 a+2\tan^2 b = \dfrac19 + \dfrac{80}9 = 9.$

[DESMOS=-10,10,-10,10]2\sin x\ +\ 6\cos x;\frac{\left(7\ -\ 3\cos x\right)}{\sin x}[/DESMOS]
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Thanks a ton for your constant participation to my "Unsolved Challenge" and of course, for your insightful and beautiful solutions, Opalg!
 
If I understand what you are doing then that would mean the max and mins of the relevant graphs are the same, thus the LHS and RHS overlap at a point. But the graph shows that that doesn't happen??

-Dan
 
topsquark said:
If I understand what you are doing then that would mean the max and mins of the relevant graphs are the same, thus the LHS and RHS overlap at a point. But the graph shows that that doesn't happen??

-Dan

The graph, and supporting algebra, suggests that there is at least one point $(a,b)$ where $a\ne b$ such that:

$$2\sin(a)+6\cos(a)=7\csc(b)-3\cot(b)$$
 
topsquark said:
If I understand what you are doing then that would mean the max and mins of the relevant graphs are the same, thus the LHS and RHS overlap at a point. But the graph shows that that doesn't happen??

-Dan
[sp]That had me fooled too, for a long time. I assumed it meant that there were no solutions to the problem. The explanation (as Mark points out) is that the graph shows two functions of a single variable $x$, but the problem refers to two separate variables $a$ and $b$. So it does not matter that the functions attain their extreme values at different points.[/sp]
 

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