What is the Volume of the Floating Object?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the volume of a floating object given its density and mass, as well as the density of water. Participants are exploring the application of Archimedes' Principle in this context.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the volume of the object and the volume of water displaced, questioning the definitions of variables in their equations. There is an exploration of how to determine the volume of the object that remains above water.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the calculations and the interpretation of the variables involved. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct approach to find the volume of the object that sticks out of the water, with various attempts and calculations being shared.

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An object with density of 831 kg/m^3 and *** of 1003 kg is thrown into te ocean. Find the volume that sticks out of the water. ( use density of water= 1024 kg/m^3)

I use F_b= m'g
m_water*g=m_object*g
p_water*V_water*g=p_object*V_object*g
v_object=(p_water*V_water)/p_object


but what is the volume of the water?...

are my formulas ok?...
 
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Hey Naldo6,

By the Achimedes' Principle, the volume of water displaced = volume of the block submerged. However, since the object is floating, the volume of water displaced is only a fraction of the volume of the whole object. Your equations are correct, however, your problem may have arisen from your definitions of the variables.

V_object=(p_water*V_water)/p_object

Consider this equation - the V_object here is: the volume of the object itself, or the volume of the object submerged? What should be the subject of the equation? (Hint: look at the statement at the beginning of the post)

Regards,
Horatio
 
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i really don't understand...
 
V_object=(1003)(831)=8.33x10^5

but then that is the wrong answer... how i do this exercise?..help please
 
Naldo6 said:
An object with density of 831 kg/m^3 and *** of 1003 kg is thrown into te ocean. Find the volume that sticks out of the water. ( use density of water= 1024 kg/m^3)

I use F_b= m'g
m_water*g=m_object*g
p_water*V_water*g=p_object*V_object*g
v_object=(p_water*V_water)/p_object


but what is the volume of the water?...

are my formulas ok?...
So far, so good. Now find V_object and V_water and compare.

Naldo6 said:
V_object=(1003)(831)=8.33x10^5

but then that is the wrong answer...
That's not "the answer", it's a step toward the answer. Good. Now figure out V_water (the volume of water displaced) using your equations. Then calculate out how much of the object's volume sticks out of the water.
 
V_water=(V_object*p_object)/p_water
so V_water = (8.33x10^5)(831)/(1024)= 6.76x10^5 m^3

ok but how i can calcuta how much of the objects's volume sticks out of the water
 
Naldo6 said:
ok but how i can calcuta how much of the objects's volume sticks out of the water
Hint: The part that sticks out is the part that doesn't displace water.
 
ok, but how i know that?...
 
You calculated two volumes. One represents the volume under water, the other represents the total volume.
 
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so that the answer to the problem is the diference between the total volumne and the volume under the water?...
 
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Naldo6 said:
so that the answer to the problem is the diference between the total volumne and the volume under the water?...
Yes.
 
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i put that answer and give me the wrong answer
i did:

8.33x10^5 6.76x10^5= 1.57x10^5 m^3 and that is not the crrect answer...please can u cheq me in my calculus aboves...
 
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Naldo6 said:
V_object=(1003)(831)=8.33x10^5
Oops... this calculation is incorrect.

Density = Mass/Volume, so:

Volume = Mass/Density.

(Redo your values for V_object and V_water.)
 
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ok ty... i get my corrects answer... but can u help me with the other exercise i post about density...
 

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