What is the volume of the shipping box?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the volume of a shipping box filled with pastry boxes, exploring assumptions about the shape of the pastry boxes and the implications for the volume calculation. It includes mathematical reasoning and considerations of different interpretations of the problem.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a straightforward calculation of the shipping box's volume by multiplying the height and the number of pastry boxes, suggesting a volume of 18 cubic feet.
  • Another participant challenges the assumption that the pastry boxes are cubical, introducing a more complex formula that shows the volume of the shipping box depends on the height of the pastry boxes, indicating an inverse variation.
  • A later reply expresses admiration for the mathematical proficiency of another participant while critiquing the complexity of the mathematics used, suggesting it is at a basic level.
  • Another participant responds to the critique, sharing their struggle with word problems and expressing concern over perceived condescension in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the assumptions regarding the shape of the pastry boxes, and there is disagreement about the appropriateness of the mathematical approaches discussed.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the dependence on assumptions regarding the shape of the pastry boxes and the implications for the volume calculation, which remain unresolved.

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A shipping box is filled with pastry boxes. Each pastry box measures 1 cubic foot. The shipping box is 3 feet high. The bottom layer of the shipping box can fit 6 pastry boxes. What is the volume of the shipping box?

Do I simply multiply 1 by 3 by 6 to get 18 cubic feet?
 
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RTCNTC said:
A shipping box is filled with pastry boxes. Each pastry box measures 1 cubic foot. The shipping box is 3 feet high. The bottom layer of the shipping box can fit 6 pastry boxes. What is the volume of the shipping box?

Do I simply multiply 1 by 3 by 6 to get 18 cubic feet?

That would be assuming the pastry boxes are cubical. If we don't make that assumption, then all we know is:

$$w_P\ell_P h_P=1$$

Now we also know:

$$w_S\ell_S=6w_P\ell_P=\frac{6}{h_P}$$

And so the volume of the shipping box is:

$$V_S=6\frac{h_S}{h_P}=\frac{18}{h_P}$$

So, we see that the volume of the shipping box depends on the height of the pastry boxes, in an inverse variation. :D
 
MarkFL said:
That would be assuming the pastry boxes are cubical. If we don't make that assumption, then all we know is:

$$w_P\ell_P h_P=1$$

Now we also know:

$$w_S\ell_S=6w_P\ell_P=\frac{6}{h_P}$$

And so the volume of the shipping box is:

$$V_S=6\frac{h_S}{h_P}=\frac{18}{h_P}$$

So, we see that the volume of the shipping box depends on the height of the pastry boxes, in an inverse variation. :D

I hope to someday understand math at your level.
 
I'm sure that MarkFL is proficient in mathematics at a very high level. But the mathematics he used on this problem is about eighth grade algebra.
 
HallsofIvy said:
I'm sure that MarkFL is proficient in mathematics at a very high level. But the mathematics he used on this problem is about eighth grade algebra.

You are right but word problems are a BIG PROBLEM for me at any grade level after 6th grade. There is no need for the put down.
 

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