What is the Wavelength of Scattered Radiation in a Compton Effect Experiment?

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The discussion revolves around a Compton effect experiment involving x-rays with a specified wavelength and scattering angle. Participants are attempting to determine the wavelength of the scattered radiation based on the Compton scattering formula.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of the Compton scattering formula, questioning the correct use of variables and constants, particularly the mass of the electron and the interpretation of the change in wavelength.

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There is ongoing exploration of the formula and its application, with participants providing calculations and questioning the signs used in the wavelength change. Some guidance is offered regarding the relationship between initial and final wavelengths.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the assumptions they can make about the scattering process.

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Homework Statement



If x ray with a weavelength of 4.5*10^-12m are used in a Compton effect experiment and are scattered at an anlge of 53.0 degree, the wavelength of the scattered radiation is?

ANS: 5.47*10^-12

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The Attempt at a Solution



The only thing i could think of was Δλ=h/mc*(1-cosθ)
which doesn't work seeing as how the xray didnt impact anything, i even tried it as if it impaced an electron using the mass of the electron. What formula or concept am i missing?
 
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skg94 said:

Homework Statement



If x ray with a wavelength of 4.5*10^-12m are used in a Compton effect experiment and are scattered at an anlge of 53.0 degree, the wavelength of the scattered radiation is?

ANS: 5.47*10^-12

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



The only thing i could think of was Δλ=h/mc*(1-cosθ)
which doesn't work seeing as how the x-ray didn't impact anything, i even tried it as if it impacted an electron using the mass of the electron. What formula or concept am i missing?
In Compton scattering, the x-rays are usually scattered by electrons.

With that, I get the given answer.
 
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skg94 said:

Homework Statement



If x ray with a weavelength of 4.5*10^-12m are used in a Compton effect experiment and are scattered at an anlge of 53.0 degree, the wavelength of the scattered radiation is?

ANS: 5.47*10^-12

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



The only thing i could think of was Δλ=h/mc*(1-cosθ)
which doesn't work seeing as how the xray didnt impact anything, i even tried it as if it impaced an electron using the mass of the electron. What formula or concept am i missing?

For m did you use the rest mass of the electron? 'Cause the formula is correct.
 
I did

6.63*10^-34/ 9.11*10^31 * 3*10^8 * (1-cos53)= 9.65959164*10^-13

Then ANS - 4.5*10^-12 which yields 3.53*10^-12.

what did i do wrong?
 
skg94 said:
I did

6.63*10^-34/ 9.11*10^31 * 3*10^8 * (1-cos53)= 9.65959164*10^-13

Then ANS - 4.5*10^-12 which yields 3.53*10^-12.

what did i do wrong?
How about ANS + 4.5*10^-12 ?
 
SammyS said:
How about ANS + 4.5*10^-12 ?

oh, how come its plus isn't Δλ= λi-λf, or is it plus? isn't the change in something usually subtract?
 
skg94 said:
oh, how come its plus isn't Δλ= λi-λf, or is it plus? isn't the change in something usually subtract?
You start with λi and finish with λf , so λi + Δλ = λf . In other words, Δλ = λf - λi , like with anything else.
 
ah.. silly mistakes are the ones that always get you thank you
 

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