Compton Scattering and Recoil Velocity

It seems like you are just summarizing the conversation and not providing a summary of the content. Please provide a summary starting with "In summary," and nothing before it. Thank you.In summary, the conversation discussed the problem of finding the approximate recoil velocity of an electron when a photon of wavelength 200 pm hits it and is scattered exactly backwards. The solution involved using Compton scattering and momentum conservation equations, and after correcting a typo, the final answer was found to be 3.97 km/s.f
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Homework Statement


A photon of wavelength ##\lambda_i = 200## pm hits an electron at rest, and is scattered exactly backwards. Find the approximate recoil velocity v of the electron using momentum conservation.

Homework Equations


Comptons Scattering:
$$\lambda_f = \lambda_i +\frac{h}{mc}(1-cos(\theta)$$

Momentum of photon:
$$p_\gamma = \frac{h}{\lambda}$$

Momentum conservation:
$$p_1+p_2 = p_1'+p_2'$$


The Attempt at a Solution


Since it recoils exactly backwards, ##\theta = \pi##, so ##(1-cos(\theta) = 1-cos(\pi) = 2##.
So,
$$\lambda_f = \lambda_i +\frac{2\pi \hbar c}{mc^2}$$
Using ##\hbar c = 197.33## MeV fm, and ##mc^2 = E_e = 937## MeV,
$$\lambda_f = 200 pm + \frac{2*2\pi (197.33 MeV fm \frac{10^{-3} pm}{fm})}{937 MeV} = 200.001$$
So for the momentum,
$$p_\gamma = \frac{h}{\lambda_i} = \frac{2\pi\hbar}{\lambda_i}$$
and
$$p_\gamma' = -\frac{h}{\lambda_f} = -\frac{2\pi\hbar}{\lambda_f}$$
and for the electron, ##p_e = 0## and ##p_e' = mv = \frac{mc^2}{c^2}v = \frac{E_e}{c^2}v##
Using conservation of momentum,
$$p_\gamma + p_e = p_\gamma' + p_e' \Rightarrow p_e' = p_\gamma - p_\gamma' \Rightarrow \frac{E_e}{c^2}v = \frac{2\pi\hbar}{\lambda_i} - (-\frac{2\pi\hbar}{\lambda_f}) = 2\pi\hbar(\frac{1}{\lambda_i}+\frac{1}{\lambda_f})$$
$$\Rightarrow v = \frac{2\pi\hbar c*c}{E_e}(\frac{1}{\lambda_i}+\frac{1}{\lambda_f})$$
Converting ##\hbar c## from MeV fm to MeV pm and plugging in all variables gave me ##v = 3969.65 \frac{m}{s}##.
The multiple choice answers were in km/s, and all had over 1000 km/s. My answer would give me about 3.97 km/s.

I have gone through trying to figure out what I did wrong. I though that I might need to use relativistic velocity; however, I found it negligible even with the largest answer choice.
 
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Homework Statement


A photon of wavelength ##\lambda_i = 200## pm hits an electron at rest, and is scattered exactly backwards. Find the approximate recoil velocity v of the electron using momentum conservation.

Homework Equations


Comptons Scattering:
$$\lambda_f = \lambda_i +\frac{h}{mc}(1-cos(\theta)$$

Momentum of photon:
$$p_\gamma = \frac{h}{\lambda}$$

Momentum conservation:
$$p_1+p_2 = p_1'+p_2'$$


The Attempt at a Solution


Since it recoils exactly backwards, ##\theta = \pi##, so ##(1-cos(\theta) = 1-cos(\pi) = 2##.
So,
$$\lambda_f = \lambda_i +\frac{2\pi \hbar c}{mc^2}$$
Using ##\hbar c = 197.33## MeV fm, and ##mc^2 = E_e = 937## MeV.
The mistake is right there.
 
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The mistake is right there.
Are you referring to the missing factor of 2 in the equation for ##\lambda_f##? If so, when. I plugged in the values in the next equation, I added the factor. The first equation missed the factor because of a typo.
 
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Are you referring to the missing factor of 2 in the equation for ##\lambda_f##? If so, when. I plugged in the values in the next equation, I added the factor. The first equation missed the factor because of a typo.
I was referring to the very last thing written in the part I quoted.
 

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