What is the work done in moving a particle around a closed curve?

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The problem involves calculating the work done by a vector field \bold{F} = (y+z) \bold{i} - (x+z) \bold{j} + (x+y) \bold{k} in moving a particle around a closed curve defined by specific parametric equations. The context is rooted in vector calculus, particularly line integrals and work done in a vector field.

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  • The original poster attempts to evaluate the work done using two different methods but encounters issues with their calculations. They question the validity of their assumptions and the integration steps taken. Other participants raise questions about the treatment of certain terms in the integral and the definition of the differential element dr.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the problem and the calculations involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of the integral and the components of the vector field, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or final answer.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of line integrals in a vector field, including considerations for the direction of integration and the implications of moving along a closed curve. There are indications of confusion regarding the integration process and assumptions made about the vector field's behavior.

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For the field \bold{F} = (y+z) \bold{i} - (x+z) \bold{j} + (x+y) \bold{k} find the work done in moving a particle around the following closed curve:

from the origin to (0,0,2π) on the curve x=1-cos t, y=sin t, z=t; and back to the origin along the z-axis. The answer is 2π. (This question is from Mary L Boas' textbook btw, which is why I have the answer.)

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We get:
dx = sin t dt
dy = cos t dt
dz = dt

x = 1 - cos t
y = sin t
z = t

I did this two ways and didn't get either right. Could someone point out what was wrong with both methods and give me a hint?

First method: I assumed that dx = dy = 0. This gives \int_0^{2\pi} (1-cos t + sin t) dt = 2\pi. But going by this method, going back to origin means that the integral for the reverse action is -2π, so the work is 0. This method is probably wrong because, obviously, x=1 - cos t is not a "static" function.

Second method: Expand everything in full, which means

W = \int F . dr = \int (sin t + t)(sin t) dt - (1 - cos t + t)(cos t) dt + (1 - cos t + sin t) dt = \int_0^{2\pi} 2 + sin t - 2 cos t dt = 4\pi, which is also wrong. For the reverse action, the limits are flipped and I get 0 again.

I think this is the right method, but there's something wrong with the integration here although its supposed to be pretty simple.
 
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Hi bigevil! :smile:
bigevil said:
dx = sin t dt
dy = cos t dt
dz = dt

W = \int F . dr = \int (sin t + t)(sin t) dt - (1 - cos t + t)(cos t) dt + (1 - cos t + sin t) dt = \int_0^{2\pi} 2 + sin t - 2 cos t dt

what happened to tsint and tcost?

also, dr2 = … ? :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi bigevil! :smile:what happened to tsint and tcost?

also, dr2 = … ? :smile:

Hi Tim, what do you mean dr^2? There shouldn't be a square in the line integral (F.dr) right?

I think I saw where I got it wrong... I did integration by parts for t cos t and got 0 (between 2π and 0)... then I removed the t cos t / t sin t from the expression. But the integration by parts for t sin t is 2π.

So, 4π - 2π = 2π, but I have another problem, that integral was just one direction. In the other direction the integral is -2π, so the ans. is 0!
 
bigevil said:
Hi Tim, what do you mean dr^2? There shouldn't be a square in the line integral (F.dr) right?

You need to know what dr is in terms of t …

I only asked about dr squared because it's easier to calculate! :smile:
So, 4π - 2π = 2π, but I have another problem, that integral was just one direction. In the other direction the integral is -2π, so the ans. is 0!

What do you mean, "the other direction"? :confused:

That's the negative z-direction, and F.k = x + y.
 

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