What is This Unearthly Creature? Is it a Starfish?

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The discussion centers on the identification of an unusual marine creature, initially thought to be a starfish but identified as a basket star, a relative of starfish known for its filter-feeding capabilities. Participants share insights on various marine organisms, including Opabinia and Hallucigenia, highlighting the historical context of their discovery and misinterpretation. The conversation emphasizes the importance of accurate scientific representation, referencing Stephen Jay Gould's book "Wonderful Life" for its detailed exploration of these creatures.

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Seems to be a basket star (not a basketball star!).
DaveC426913 said:
But I think it's actually a starfish.
Yes, relative of starfish.
I was surprised at how big it is.
It seems to be a filter feeder, using its basket-like arms to catch little things out of currents.

There are lots of weird and fun critters.
Opabinia (an early fossil arthropod):
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Hallucagenia (an early fossil velvet worm):
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Amphipod (related to pillbugs) parasite that eats a fish's tongue and replaces it. It then eats some of the food the fish eats:
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: | My sister M Collins did the original 3D interpretational drawings from scientists' descriptions, from which most other diagrams on the internet were shamelessly copied.

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Very cool @DaveC426913 !
Its interesting that they had the original versions of Hallucagenia upside down (walking on what are now considered defensive spines).
I'm sure it was the scientist's fault and not your sister's.
Gould's book (Wonderful Life) was written before this was figured out, so he probably discusses it in a lot of detail.
 
BillTre said:
Very cool @DaveC426913 !
Its interesting that they had the original versions of Hallucagenia upside down (walking on what are now considered defensive spines).
I'm sure it was the scientist's fault and not your sister's.
I remember discussing that very thing over the dinner table. The scientists couldn't make up their minds. They wondered if maybe the wavey bits were eating/breathing tubules, but that would necessitate walking on the spikey bits, like an urchin.
Good times, good times.

BillTre said:
Gould's book (Wonderful Life) was written before this was figured out, so he probably discusses it in a lot of detail.
She illustrated that too. :biggrin:
 
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