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The discussion revolves around the nature of questions that ask for differences between concepts, particularly in educational settings. Participants explore how such questions are often framed and answered, with a focus on the expectations of examiners and the understanding of students. The scope includes theoretical considerations, practical implications in testing, and examples from various subjects.

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  • Some participants suggest that questions asking for differences are often poorly constructed, leading to inadequate responses from students.
  • Examples provided include comparisons of grape varieties and numerical differences, highlighting the ambiguity in what constitutes a satisfactory answer.
  • There is a discussion about the context in which differences should be explained, with some arguing that students should demonstrate understanding beyond mere description.
  • One participant humorously points out that the phrasing of a question can lead to confusion, as seen in the example of "Pino Noir" versus "Pinot Noir."
  • Concerns are raised about the reliance on examiners to interpret students' answers correctly, suggesting that clarity in questioning is crucial.
  • Some participants note that asking for clarification during exams can be challenging, especially in formal settings.
  • There is a recognition that some questions may be better than others, with a call for more precise wording to avoid misunderstandings.

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Participants express a range of views on the effectiveness of difference questions, with no clear consensus on the best approach to framing or answering them. Some agree on the need for clarity, while others emphasize the importance of understanding the subject matter.

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Limitations in the discussion include the potential for misinterpretation of questions, the subjective nature of what constitutes a satisfactory answer, and the varying expectations of different examiners.

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This discussion may be of interest to educators, students preparing for exams, and anyone involved in the assessment of knowledge in academic settings.

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One of the questions that tends to be answered badly is "what is the difference between...", but fair is fair: it's usually asked badly.

This type of question is asked of students when the teacher wants to test if they know that the things being compared are. So it is usually acceptable to just describe the two items and leave it at that. In other words, students are not usually expected to describe the actual point(s) of difference.

Usually, though, the description will implicitly amount to this. In sciences students seem to have enough trouble trying to second-guess which of the many differences

I think this is something that comes up in setting and marking Economics essays: that's where I first encountered it.

I probably need an example:

Q1. What is the difference between Pinot Noir and Pinot Meunier?

A. The meunier is characterized by a white dust under it's leaves and smaller berries, while the noir has small leaves, small bunches of largish berries, and is one of the most commonly grown in the World.

This is a fairly typical answer. Have I answered the question: what is the difference? Or have I just described the things?

Q2. What is the difference between 6 and 7?

A. one is curved while the other has all straight lines.

Surely the difference is 1? Though, perhaps the subject is calligraphy - but then perhaps the difference is the rendering style: they need different strokes?

Q3. What is the difference between red and blue?

A. About 200nm

Does this work?

What the examiner is looking for will depend on the context of the question.
Usually they will look for signs of understanding the subject.
For Q1 I'd look for some mention that these are different varieties of grape/vine used to make wine - then go into detail about what is different about them. For Q3, perhaps establishing the context ... the answer suggests something to do with electromagnetic spectrum so say so! (Note: it could be about the chemical composition of paint or the psychological effect of wall-color on test subects.) The student finesses their (correct) answer by showing they understand what is being asked of them.

It could be argued that all this is implied in the manner of the reply - but, in an assignment or an exam, is the student well-advised to rely on the marker getting this?

Just a thought.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
One of the questions that tends to be answered badly is "what is the difference between...", but fair is fair: it's usually asked badly.

This type of question is asked of students when the teacher wants to test if they know that the things being compared are. So it is usually acceptable to just describe the two items and leave it at that. In other words, students are not usually expected to describe the actual point(s) of difference.

Usually, though, the description will implicitly amount to this. In sciences students seem to have enough trouble trying to second-guess which of the many differences

I think this is something that comes up in setting and marking Economics essays: that's where I first encountered it.

I probably need an example:

Q1. What is the difference between Pino Noir and Pino Meunier?

A. The meunier is characterized by a white dust under it's leaves and smaller berries, while the noir has small leaves, small bunches of largish berries, and is one of the most commonly grown in the World.

This is a fairly typical answer. Have I answered the question: what is the difference? Or have I just described the things?

Q2. What is the difference between 6 and 7?

A. one is curved while the other has all straight lines.

Surely the difference is 1? Though, perhaps the subject is calligraphy - but then perhaps the difference is the rendering style: they need different strokes?

Q3. What is the difference between red and blue?

A. About 200nm

Does this work?

What the examiner is looking for will depend on the context of the question.
Usually they will look for signs of understanding the subject.
For Q1 I'd look for some mention that these are different varieties of grape/vine used to make wine - then go into detail about what is different about them. For Q3, perhaps establishing the context ... the answer suggests something to do with electromagnetic spectrum so say so! (Note: it could be about the chemical composition of paint or the psychological effect of wall-color on test subects.) The student finesses their (correct) answer by showing they understand what is being asked of them.

It could be argued that all this is implied in the manner of the reply - but, in an assignment or an exam, is the student well-advised to rely on the marker getting this?

Just a thought.
Great post
 
Simon Bridge said:
Q1. What is the difference between Pino Noir and Pino Meunier?
There's no difference, since neither one exists. However, Pinot Noir and Pinot Meunier are different... :oldbiggrin:

Simon Bridge said:
A. The meunier is characterized by a white dust under it's leaves and smaller berries, while the noir has small leaves, small bunches of largish berries, and is one of the most commonly grown in the World.

This is a fairly typical answer. Have I answered the question: what is the difference? Or have I just described the things?
You have listed some differences -- white dust under leaves for Pinot Meunier, while Pinot Noir presumably does not have this dust. Also, the berries (i.e., grapes) have different sizes.
 
Some questions are better than others, in many ways.
When taking tests, I would often ask questions of clarification of the test giver if I did not fully understand what they were asking.
 
BillTre said:
Some questions are better than others, in many ways.
When taking tests, I would often ask questions of clarification of the test giver if I did not fully understand what they were asking.
Tricky to ask the test-given for formal college undergrad exams.
Mark44 said:
You have listed some differences -- white dust under leaves for Pinot Meunier, while Pinot Noir presumably does not have this dust. Also, the berries (i.e., grapes) have different sizes.
... or have you just inferred the intended differences from the descriptions?
Yes, I know that language works that way, and the answer would probably be marked correct anyway. After all, the tester is usually just wanting the student to demonstrate they understand the topic.

However, all that has actually been shown is that the subject knows what the two varieties are, not how they differ from each other. A difference is a kind of relationship.

It's not often an issue.
 
Simon Bridge said:
Tricky to ask the test-given for formal college undergrad exams.

Maybe I don't know what your formal college undergrad exams are, but in the exams I took,
I would always ask questions, about questions, if they didn't make sense to me.
Not at all hard to do, where I was (at the University of Maryland, in the 1970's).
Same in grad school (for me).

I can be an aggressive questioner, if I am in search of some information or understanding.
 
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Q2. What is the difference between 6 and 7?
A. one is curved while the other has all straight lines.
A perfect 'Mathematician's Answer' o0)

I think some questions does deserve that.
 
BillTre said:
Some questions are better than others, in many ways.
When taking tests, I would often ask questions of clarification of the test giver if I did not fully understand what they were asking.

Other people maliciously do NOT ask questions to clarify what is being asked

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