What Makes Drug Movies So Compelling?

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for compelling films, with participants sharing their recent movie experiences and preferences. The scope includes various genres, directors, and personal reflections on cinema as an art form.

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  • Some participants recommend classic films such as "12 Monkeys," "2001: A Space Odyssey," and "Casablanca," expressing their enjoyment and significance.
  • Others share their appreciation for specific directors like Akira Kurosawa and Ingmar Bergman, highlighting films such as "Seven Samurai" and "Fanny and Alexander."
  • A few participants express a preference for independent films and cinema as an art form, contrasting it with mainstream entertainment.
  • Some mention their enjoyment of specific genres, including sci-fi and cult classics, with films like "Dark Star" and "The Cube" being discussed for their unique qualities.
  • There are references to personal experiences with films, such as the emotional impact of "Grave of the Fireflies" and humorous moments in Woody Allen's works.
  • Several participants engage in discussions about the merits of various films and directors, with some expressing skepticism about mainstream cinema.

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Participants express a variety of opinions on films, directors, and genres, with no clear consensus on what makes a film compelling. Multiple competing views remain regarding the value of mainstream versus independent cinema.

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Some discussions touch on the subjective nature of film appreciation and the varying definitions of what constitutes a good movie, reflecting personal tastes and cultural influences.

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Readers interested in film recommendations, cinematic art, and discussions about various directors and genres may find this thread engaging.

  • #91
Kill Bill #1 is an excellent movie,first I hated it but now I think that movie is great!
 
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  • #92
Recon, the Magnificent Seven (western) is pretty cool, and the men in it are quite good looking as well :biggrin: .
 
  • #93
Has anyone put Blue's Brothers yet?
Funniest movie ever.
 
  • #94
Polly said:
Recon, the Magnificent Seven (western) is pretty cool, and the men in it are quite good looking as well :biggrin: .

Eli Wallach and Yul Brynner star in this movie, don't they? The Ugly and King Mongkut, mmm...:-p
 
  • #95
Polly said:
Recon, the Magnificent Seven (western) is pretty cool, and the men in it are quite good looking as well :biggrin: .

That was based off of Akira Kurosawa's The Seven Samurai staring Toshiro Mifune. Highly recommended!
 
  • #96
The Seven Samurai is one of the most overrated films of all time.
It claims to be the greatest action movie ever, and yeah the action in it is pretty good... but the whole other 2 and a half hours of crap are the WORST ever!
If you want to watch this movie, just watch the las half hour or so.


My suggestions for movies are as follows: Go and see Peter Jackson's (directed The Lord Of The Rings) first three movies...They are:
Bad Taste , (aliens try to take over New Zealand!)
Meet The Feebles , (the muppets meet sex, drugs and rocknroll)
Braindead , (monkey bite turns small town into zombies)

HILARIOUS! (you just have to remember that he was chosen to direct the Rings trilogy, hilarious!)
 
  • #97
tyco05 said:
The Seven Samurai is one of the most overrated films of all time.
It claims to be the greatest action movie ever, and yeah the action in it is pretty good... but the whole other 2 and a half hours of crap are the WORST ever!
If you want to watch this movie, just watch the las half hour or so.

Without the beginning of the movie, it would have no substance. If you were to watch the last thirty minutes, instead of enjoying the movie, you'd be wondering what the hell is going on.
 
  • #98
OK, I'll summarise it in a couple of lines, that way anybody who watches it will know what's going on:

A small village of peasants is threatened by a group of bandits.
The peasants then need to find somebody to protect the village for when the bandits return.
They search and search and search (and finally find seven samurai), and convince them to protect their village, even though they can't pay them anything.
They get back to the village and the bandits come.

That's 2.5 hrs of movie for you.

.........
I admit I was expecting a completely different movie than what I saw. Therefore I have a somewhat tainted view. I agree that it is a good movie, but still think that it is completely overrated.

P.S. as has been mentioned in earlier threads, anything from Kubrick is good.
 
  • #99
Rosebud...
 
  • #100
tyco05 said:
P.S. as has been mentioned in earlier threads, anything from Kubrick is good.
The Shining would be an exception; I fall asleep every time I try to watch it.
Dr. Strangelove was definitely Kubrick's best work.

A movie you must watch is Gattaca.
 
  • #101
recon said:
Rosebud...

Overrated.
 
  • #102
You folks talking about Kane ?
 
  • #103
cragwolf said:
Overrated.

What movie isn't? If I had said Kong, you would have said that too. Or maybe the Godfather?
 
  • #104
recon said:
What movie isn't? If I had said Kong, you would have said that too. Or maybe the Godfather?

Yes and yes. :)

What movie isn't overrated? Let me take a stab at that:

1) Bad movies that are so obviously bad that no reasonable person can fail to realize that they are bad. For examples, see your typical worst 100 movies list.

2) Good movies that are good in subtle ways that many reasonable people fail to notice. Look up some top 100 lists, whether popular or by a pool of critics. Ask why there are not more (or any) movies by Bresson, Ozu, Leigh, and Dreyer in those lists.

3) Good or bad movies which are largely ignored by the critics and the general public. By this I mean, the vast universe of tuly independent films, made by a single artist or a group of artists whose focus is not the creation of a marketable product.
 
  • #105
cragwolf said:
3) Good or bad movies which are largely ignored by the critics and the general public. By this I mean, the vast universe of tuly independent films, made by a single artist or a group of artists whose focus is not the creation of a marketable product.
Often films in this last group actually are overrated – but only by the 4.5 people that have actually seen them... :-p
 
  • #106
plover said:
Often films in this last group actually are overrated – but only by the 4.5 people that have actually seen them... :-p

True, I've seen some really awful films in this category.
 
  • #107
Greg Bernhardt said:
go see "the saw", best suspense horror flick since seven
Saw II.
http://www.themoviebox.net/movies/2005/STUVWXYZ/Saw-2/trailer.php
 
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  • #108
This is a very useful thread!Thanks Gokul for forming it!

Well guys i would love to hear your best choices for the movies which exposes American women sides,their psychology,thinking etc.etc.!
Well i saw Hitch,What Women Wants and quite liked them!
I want to hear name of movies which have similar side lines!
 
  • #109
heman said:
This is a very useful thread!Thanks Gokul for forming it!

Well guys i would love to hear your best choices for the movies which exposes American women sides,their psychology,thinking etc.etc.!
Well i saw Hitch,What Women Wants and quite liked them!
I want to hear name of movies which have similar side lines!
Ever seen Misery?
 
  • #110
heman said:
This is a very useful thread!Thanks Gokul for forming it!

Well guys i would love to hear your best choices for the movies which exposes American women sides,their psychology,thinking etc.etc.!
Well i saw Hitch,What Women Wants and quite liked them!
I want to hear name of movies which have similar side lines!

There are many movies that expose pretty much every sides of American women.. on the top of my head: Double Filled Cream Teens 5, Tight Teen Tails 3, Slut Puppies, Gooey Buns 2, Chunky School Girls 4, ... :-p

There is no special psychology for American women; they all work the same way all around the globe. But here are three good movies I know of. The lesson is to be taken from what the guys do, actually.

Watch 'A Streetcar Named Desire' with Marlon Brando (10 red giant stars on the cosmological quasar scale). Marlon Brando is a sexy biach in this movie, while that 'Mitch' guy does all the wrong things with Blanche's sister.

Don Juan de Marco with Johnny Depp (8 stars). Has some interesting insights, but nothing extraordinary.

Titanic (10 stars) with Leo :!) Dicaprio. Same thing.
 
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  • #111
OMG! a saw2! forst one scared me to death. yay! the first one was exellent though. definitely recommend it.

someone posted cube earlier, alse a great movie. also, cube 2: hypercube, and the prequel: cube zero. exellent special effects
 
  • #112
Concerning the actual topic of the thread, I recommend watching (because they're my fav movies :!) )...

Requiem for a Dream - This is the kind of movie that after its over you spend 10 minutes staring at the blank TV creen. Totally mind-blowing. For optimum results, watch in complete obscurity. (10 stars)

Cidade de Deus ('City of God' in english) - Enigmatic title; just see it to see what it's about. This movie is to be watched with the lights on. (10 stars)

Raging Bull - A biographical film about the middleweight champ, the physically tough, but emotionally self-destructive Jake LaMotta. With Robert -the man- De Niro. (10 stars)

Pulp Fiction - No comment. (10 stars)

Fight Club - No comment. (10 stars)

Forrest Gump - No comment. (10 stars)

Other drug movies that totally kick: The Basketball Diaries (10 stars), Drugstore Cowboys (8 stars), Trainspotting (8 stars), Blow (7 stars)
 
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  • #113
how could you have no comment on pulp fiction?

ok, reccomendations

casino
Jackie brown
kill bill 1&2
I'll post more later
 
  • #114
Cuz it needs no comment in the sense that everybody knows what pulp fiction, fight club and forest gump are.

Casino was kewl :cool:.
 
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  • #115
million dollar baby
 
  • #116
The beatiful adaptations of E.M Forster's novels by Merchant&Ivory are, IMO, some of the best "period pieces" ever made. Both "Howard's End" and "A room with a view" are great movies, and I must add to that list "Maurice" as well, probably the best gay lovestory ever brought on screen.

Sadly, Ismael Merchant passed away a few months ago.
 
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  • #117
arildno said:
The beatiful adaptations of E.M Forster's novels by Merchant&Ivory are, IMO, some of the best "period pieces" ever made. Both "Howard's End" and "A room with a view" are great movies, and I must add to that list "Maurice" as well (sigh..)

Sadly, Ismael Merchant passed away a few months ago.

I'd forgotten how much I liked those.
My favorited comedies are - Kind Hearts and Coronets, Diner de Cons and Les Visiteurs (not the terrible American version), Dr Strangelove and most things Peter Sellers was in, especially Shot In the Dark and the other Pink Panthers.
 
  • #118
Blasphemy!

A listing of comedies without "A fish called Wanda" at the very top??

That's just perverse..
 
  • #119
:smile: My mistake
 
  • #120
You're forgiven. :smile:
 

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