What Makes Star Trek Continues So Awesome?

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The discussion revolves around the web series "Star Trek Continues," exploring its quality, production values, and how it compares to both the original series and recent Star Trek films. Participants share their impressions, experiences, and critiques of the series, touching on themes of nostalgia and the evolution of storytelling in the franchise.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express that "Star Trek Continues" captures the essence of the original series, citing its attention to detail in sound, lighting, and music.
  • Others mention the need to adjust to the characters, comparing it to acclimating to a cold swimming pool.
  • Several participants highlight the involvement of notable actors, such as Chris Doohan and Grant Imehara, and discuss their performances.
  • Some express disappointment with recent Star Trek films, arguing that they lack the heart and sense of wonder found in the original series.
  • Participants reflect on the pacing of older shows compared to newer productions, noting that the slower pace of classic episodes contributes to a more reflective viewing experience.
  • There are mixed feelings about the acting quality in "Star Trek Continues," with some praising it while others critique specific performances.
  • Some participants mention the series' origins as a Kickstarter project and speculate on how it navigates copyright issues.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that "Star Trek Continues" has merits and captures the spirit of the original series, but there are competing views on the quality of recent Star Trek films and the performances in the web series. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall impact of these productions on the Star Trek legacy.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that their enjoyment of the original series is tied to personal nostalgia, which may influence their perceptions of newer adaptations. There are also references to specific episodes and themes that resonate differently with viewers based on their familiarity with the franchise.

Who May Find This Useful

Fans of the Star Trek franchise, particularly those interested in its adaptations and the evolution of its storytelling, as well as viewers curious about independent productions in the sci-fi genre.

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This actually works! If you're tired of being disappointed by the gawd-awful movies that have come out recently, there is hope...

http://www.startrekcontinues.com/

It takes a bit to adjust to the characters. A bit like jumping in a slightly cold swimming pool before getting used to it. Amazing to think that amateur technology now is equal to or better than what major TV companies had in the 60s.

Looks like it started as a kickstarter project. I don't know how they get around copyright and such, but it seems not to be a problem.

-Dave K
 
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This is great! Thanks for the post! It really nails the feeling of the original series with the closeup facial shots...
 
Yes, they've got everything down. Sounds, lighting, music. It's perfect. Almost better, though I'll always have an attachment to the original characters.

For episode 3, make sure you watch "Mirror Mirror" from season 2 of the original series first. It's an awesome episode and there is complete continuity. The episode picks up in the alternate universe. Amazing script.
 
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The notable stars are:

- Chris Doohan as Scotty who the son of James Doohan (the original Scotty)
- Grant Imehara as Sulu of Mythbusters and movie/commercial special effects fame

Very cool!
 
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jedishrfu said:
The notable stars are:

- Chris Doohan as Scotty who the son of James Doohan (the original Scotty)
- Grant Imehara as Sulu of Mythbusters and movie/commercial special effects fame

Very cool!

Oh wow, I didn't even realize!
 
Just watched an episode. Actually didn't suck! I agree they've nailed the feel of TOS.
 
dkotschessaa said:
This actually works! If you're tired of being disappointed by the gawd-awful movies that have come out recently, there is hope...

http://www.startrekcontinues.com/

It takes a bit to adjust to the characters. A bit like jumping in a slightly cold swimming pool before getting used to it. Amazing to think that amateur technology now is equal to or better than what major TV companies had in the 60s.

Looks like it started as a kickstarter project. I don't know how they get around copyright and such, but it seems not to be a problem.

-Dave K
You should like this one that's been around for a while. Some of the episodes even have cameos from the original crew.

Star Trek New Voyages.
 
I liked the new movies.
 
MFPunch said:
I liked the new movies.

They are neat to look at, and as a fan I will always go see them. However, Abrams has no heart, no imagination, and his productions have no sense of wonder about them at all. If you grew up with the original series, there's just nothing to love about the new ones.
 
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dkotschessaa said:
They are neat to look at, and as a fan I will always go see them. However, Abrams has no heart, no imagination, and his productions have no sense of wonder about them at all. If you grew up with the original series, there's just nothing to love about the new ones.

YESSSS! That's it exactly.

Its like the Planet of the Apes movies, the sense of wonder is gone because we know how its going to turn out whereas the first movie with Charlton Heston had that epic ending where you see the half buried Statue of Liberty and realize that this story just took place on the Earth in the future instead of some alien planet and that's why all the sequels could never match the original.
 
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jedishrfu said:
YESSSS! That's it exactly.

Its like the Planet of the Apes movies, the sense of wonder is gone because we know how its going to turn out whereas the first movie with Charlton Heston had that epic ending where you see the half buried Statue of Liberty and realize that this story just took place on the Earth in the future instead of some alien planet and that's why all the sequels could never match the original.

That's the sense of wonder of not knowing whether something will happen or not. But I'm talking about something a little bit different, which was more of a pervasive and somewhat more innocent kind of wonder, which was the whole tone of the earlier shows.

The new movies are just Abrams masturbatory cinematography.
 
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Its more than that. When you see the show the first time you get a real sense of wonder that doesn't fully reappear when you see the same show again. Star Trek was special in that way. There are certain shows that I remember well:

- City on the Edge of Forever (even remember the title)
- Charlie (pilot)
- Pike (two part pilot)
- Tribbles
- The M5 computer
- the two tone adversaries (which at first thought was stupid makeup until the end when I realized the message)
- the man who lived forever as Brahms, DaVinci...
- chicago gangs
- landru
- nazis
- gary 7

and there's others that are much more vague.

One thing I've noticed is the pacing between older shows and the ones made now. Things now seem to come at you like a fire hose or when you see the old show it seems to drag a bit.
 
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jedishrfu said:
Its more than that. When you see the show the first time you get a real sense of wonder that doesn't fully reappear when you see the same show again. Star Trek was special in that way.

Yes, but for some reason I am able to watch TOS or ENG episodes over and over again, even when I know what's going to happen next. So I'm talking about a mood, at least in my own personal experience.



There are certain shows that I remember well:

- City on the Edge of Forever (even remember the title)
- Charlie (pilot)
- Pike (two part pilot)
- Tribbles
- The M5 computer
- the two tone adversaries (which at first thought was stupid makeup until the end when I realized the message)
- the man who lived forever as Brahms, DaVinci...
- chicago gangs
- landru
- nazis
- gary 7

and there's others that are much more vague.

One thing I've noticed is the pacing between older shows and the ones made now. Things now seem to come at you like a fire hose or when you see the old show it seems to drag a bit.

The pacing may very well be part of the mood I refer too. Slower paces are more reflective and mysterious. Even if you know what's going to happen next, the characters don't, and you can still feel that sense of "not knowing" what's going on. With the newer shows, well, just wait 2 seconds.

-DaveK
 
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I watched the first episode last night and I was quite impressed. I will certainly be watching the others. Well done!
 
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dkotschessaa said:
This actually works! If you're tired of being disappointed by the gawd-awful movies that have come out recently, there is hope...

http://www.startrekcontinues.com/

It takes a bit to adjust to the characters. A bit like jumping in a slightly cold swimming pool before getting used to it. Amazing to think that amateur technology now is equal to or better than what major TV companies had in the 60s.

Looks like it started as a kickstarter project. I don't know how they get around copyright and such, but it seems not to be a problem.

-Dave K

These are great, dkotschessaa. Good find. I am actually watching "Lolani" right now on my new Samsung 6030 model 40 inch 1080p, 120 hz motion-corrected 3-D HDTV. Thanks!

Edit: I forgot to mention, using my little chromecast key dongle that plugs directly into one of my two HDMI ports
 
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I'll tell you what's great about this... These people take themselves entirely too seriously. Lol, But that is what's great about it. It's the seriousness of every scene that is some way relaxing and refreshing.
 
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Thanks for this. I've watched all three and I like them. McCoy seems quite a bit off, though I'm not as familiar with TOS as TNG, so I could be misremembering. Grant Imehara is a terrible actor and the endings seem to drag on a bit for the first two episodes, but even by the third one they worked out a lot of the kinks. They even got the "unnecessarily shirtless Kirk scene" in early.
 
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TOS came out before I was born but I saw plenty of the episodes on TV ('76 to TNG). Every once in a while I saw an episode that I have not seen before and it was like a Christmas present. I followed the TNG pretty religiously but also had the rare treat of viewing a missed episode Christmas present.

I just watched the Mirror Universe one, and was given the feeling of a missed episode Christmas treat. Thanks for sharing!

As for the Abrams' Star Trek, it is too much to stomach.
 
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I just gave $20 to the cause via Paypal.
 
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dkotschessaa said:
This actually works! If you're tired of being disappointed by the gawd-awful movies that have come out recently, there is hope...

http://www.startrekcontinues.com/

It takes a bit to adjust to the characters. A bit like jumping in a slightly cold swimming pool before getting used to it. Amazing to think that amateur technology now is equal to or better than what major TV companies had in the 60s.

Looks like it started as a kickstarter project. I don't know how they get around copyright and such, but it seems not to be a problem.

-Dave K

I knew the episodes but I did not know about their website. Thanks for posting it.
I was also extremely impressed when I saw it the first time on youtube. The use of music, the look, the
special effects, everything was incredibly faithful to the original series. I was an immediate big fan.

The only disappointment is that, as far as I can tell, there are only 3 episodes so far. Are there more that I missed (I hope so!)?? I was afraid they had done only those three because I could not find anything more on youtube. Are they still producing?
 
  • #21
Throw some money their way.
 
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Yeah, I guess they need more funding. I don't see any updates on the blog site or anything. I hope it picks back up!
 
  • #23
New episode on May 29, 2015.
 
  • #24
Anybody see the forth episode? I hope they keep this going.
 
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I see a lot of lurkers but has anyone else donated to the cause?
 

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