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What progress has been done on Hilbert's 6th problem?

  1. Sep 9, 2015 #1
    So Hilbert's[/PLAIN] [Broken] 6th problem says:

    6. Mathematical Treatment of the Axioms of Physics. The investigations on the foundations of geometry suggest the problem: To treat in the same manner, by means of axioms, those physical sciences in which already today mathematics plays an important part; in the first rank are the theory of probabilities and mechanics.
    What progress has been done on Hilbert's 6th problem so far and what are the main difficulties? (in layman language)
     
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  3. Sep 9, 2015 #2

    BvU

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    You mean other than already related in layman terms on the link you start out with ? I don't know who the author is, but the wiki lemma is a good starting point for surfing around. I don't think there is any point in re-doing that.
    Or do you mean from 2000 until now ? Then you are really at the forefront of science philosophy, together with some very big shots... better fly a little lower and do some reading, surfing and learning some basic physics.
     
  4. Sep 9, 2015 #3
    Yes, but I don't envisage to understand those things deeply, just a brief overview if there are recent interesting results and what the main difficulties are, such discussions always motivate me.
     
  5. Sep 9, 2015 #4

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    But the problem here is that do you even understand the very thing that you quoted on your first post? You wanted an update or progress out of it, but I am not even sure if you even understand "it" as the starting point!

    I see in another post in this same forum that you don't have a clear understanding of basic projectile motion, and also that English isn't your first language. So even if we could explain all this in "laymen's" term, I foresee either a misunderstanding, or misinterpretation of what will be presented, not just based on the language, but also based on cultural and social context.

    This is neglecting the fact that I see this as purely a philosophical topic that is frowned upon on here.

    Zz.
     
  6. Sep 9, 2015 #5

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    I can respect that. But then perhaps this insight by Alex can do the motivating as a substitute for the layman translation that we are somewhat reluctant to provide. (with good reasons, it will trigger a lot of nonsense, noise and what have you, as Zz said). You'll see John Bs' name reappearing there!

    Perhaps there's a genuine expert listening in. Who knows. Someone who also has a talent for communication with laymen like us. In which case I'm glad I responded, because I'll get alerted via mail and may pick up some real news.
     
  7. Sep 9, 2015 #6

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    From Wikipedia:

    At the present time, there are two foundational theories in physics: the Standard Model of particle physics and general relativity. Many parts of these theories have been put on an axiomatic basis. However, physics as a whole has not, and in fact the Standard Model is not even logically consistent with general relativity, indicating the need for a still unknown theory of quantum gravity. The solution of Hilbert's sixth problem thus remains open.

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    I don't think much more can be said in layman's terms.
     
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