The discussion highlights a perceived crisis in the foundations of quantum mechanics (QM), characterized by a proliferation of interpretations and a lack of consensus among experts. This situation is exacerbated by a shortage of independent researchers and a tendency to focus on finding the "best axioms" rather than addressing deeper theoretical issues. Comparisons are drawn to historical challenges in the foundations of mathematics and fluid mechanics, suggesting that similar confusion and interpretational problems persist in QM. The conversation also notes that many physicists show little interest in foundational issues, viewing them as less relevant to practical applications. Overall, the field of QM foundations is seen as struggling to make significant progress despite the increasing number of physicists.