Wrichik Basu said:
He also measured the potential in hyperpolarized state and depolarized stare. How can I do these today?
This would usually be done with microelectrodes. This would be Neurophysiology.
You would do some thing like dissect out the part of the animal containing the cells,
put it in a dish in some way that you keep it alive and well
have this set-up over an microscope, and
poke it with electrodes.
If you can see, it you can poke it, is a saying.
Alternatively, you could use a fluorescent voltage indicator (not as fast or detailed as electrodes).
Wrichik Basu said:
Say, I want to work with cone cells or iodopsin. How do scientists with with them
Depends what you want to do:
They would take a prep like described above, or say an isolation of cells or cell parts in some way gives you a more pure prep for say biochemistry.
Nowadays, you could study these things with molecular biology and genetics (which involves whole organisms).
I'm not that familiar with his work, but this sounds like doing biochem/molecular biology on a prep of cell parts (you can isolate only the photorecptor part of the cell is isolated. There are methods that can do this. You can do EM (electrode microscopy), biochem, and physiology on these things.
Similar with genetics: mutations of different steps (molecular biology, physiology, sequence differences).
Wrichik Basu said:
How can I do these today? In short, how do I work with cone cells and Photopsin? Do I extract them from the eye of a dead person?
Actually, you could get human material, if you got funding and worked through an eyebank, which would be where human tissue would come from.
I work for an eyebank now, which is the only reason I know this.
I would guess, more than 90% of the recoveries I do, are for use in treatments of human eye disease (mostly cornea recoveries, not whole eyes recoveries).
The rest are usually whole eye recoveries, mostly in the Portland area (head quarters), I mostly do Eugene and three smaller cities, not Portland, where they have a big lab, and can get really fresh material for complex tissue processing. I would expect there to be a higher percentage of eyes used for research in the Portland area, because the eyes would be able to get to the eyebank lab more quickly, from a more local area recovery. They some this out at headquarters, in great detail.
Big cities, with eyebanks located there, will be able to do this. Our Eyebank just opened a new branch in Boston, which is a big place for biomedical research, and probably access to human material.
They also have big medical schools, with lots of research, that could be making new human treatments and operations.
From the corneas, the Portland eyebank (Lions VisionGift) makes a product that can treat 2 corneas for every 1 cornea collected), the transplantation is a well worked out and simple operation. Cornea cells have a slow metabolic rate, are not vascularized and therefore don't depend on the circulation to stay alive.
They can be collected, still alive, 24 hours after a person dies, and transplanted, as live cells, to have a medical effect, on some patient.
In there normal state, these cells, make sheet over the back side of the cornea, and using pumps, control the amount the of fluid in the gel-like cornea, to keep it optically good. They don't need a lot of energy to just sit around a while so they can survive. Most of the other cells (with a higher metabolic rates) are not so lucky.
Most neurons would be dead in minutes or less.
So would larger structures like organs.
Therefore, organ transplants are based on getting organs from a small subset of pre-dead (very/terminally ill) patients, where:
- the family and doctors agree,
- legal consent received,
- there are no restrictions from the Medical Examiner (ME),
- there is some immediate research or medical need
Then the patient can be un-plugged, he dies, and some organ is extracted, put on ice, either taken to a lab or hospital.
The organ extraction, is done in an Operating Room (higher tech, in some ways, than most labs (not like Monte Python!)).
In other cases, the whole eye is collected, sent to headquarters, and the researcher's desired parts (like the retina or something) are taken out in some way for research.
So that is what is possible, in situations like that.
If you worked in a lab that was funded and able to take advantage of its services (had some project to do), you could get this kind of thing to study.
Working with non-human mammals, you could more easily get research material from a slaughter house.
Genetics would require working with organisms that could be easily kept alive and bred, in lots of copies (thousands of separately bred lines).
Such as, from not like human, to very much like human (as is commonly perceived IMHO):
- single cells
- a microscopic worm or fruit fly
- a little fish
- mice
- humans
Humans might involve sampling populations or medical studies.
Human research would be more close to medical work.
More close to humans, means you get a lot more ethical issues and limitations on what experiments/observations are possible.
Working with different animals (or other organisms), you have increasingly reduced limitations as you work with (approximately) with smaller, simpler, and more stupidly thought of animals (like: flies, microscopic worms, single cells)).
You have more research possibilities (for many reasons), with increasingly more freedom in what you can study with organisms, as you are further removed from human.
Little flies, microscopic worms, single cells are extremes organisms to study, with fewer such limits.
With these animals, you can make mutations, breed lines, make crosses to generate some genetically specific animal you want to study.
Ask very detailed, well controlled questions.
These let you ask a lot more detailed questions about things, but they would usually be further away from direct study of human biology.
Many pick different points on this continuum to work.