What Science Fair Project Combines Light, Electricity, or Magnetism?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding a suitable science fair project that incorporates elements of light, electricity, or magnetism. Participants explore various project ideas and share their experiences, focusing on the feasibility and safety of different concepts for a 9th-grade student.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests creating a plasma speaker, noting the need for adult supervision due to the complexity of electronics.
  • Another participant shares links to DIY projects for building an electron accelerator, questioning their safety and feasibility for a 9th grader.
  • A participant recounts their experience helping their child with a wind energy project, recommending studying various factors like propeller number and pitch.
  • Concerns are raised about ensuring the student is actively involved in the project design and execution, rather than relying on adult guidance.
  • The student expresses interest in measuring celestial objects using their telescope and developing a formula to estimate size based on distance.
  • Further inquiries are made about measuring the size of images seen through the telescope and the possibility of using photographs for calculations.
  • The student seeks assistance in deriving a formula to relate the apparent size of an object viewed through the telescope to its actual size at a distance.
  • There is a mention of calculating angular diameter from a circle's diameter, indicating the student's engagement with the mathematical aspects of their project.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of safety and personal involvement in the project, but there are differing opinions on the feasibility of specific project ideas and methods for measurement.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for careful consideration of safety and complexity in project selection, as well as the importance of understanding the underlying concepts to effectively communicate during evaluations.

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So, I'm doing a Science fair this year, and I need some help coming up with a new topic. I was origionally going to do something that transfers files using MySQL and Visual Basic, but decided it was kind of stupid. I'm in 9th grade, at the top of my class, and I need a good project. It also want to compete with my friend, who is extracting clorophyll from green algae to be used as fuel (last year he did the best growing conditions for green algae, and won state.)

I wanted to something related to light, electricity, or magnetism. Any ideas guys?
 
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Depending on what kit you have you could make a plasma speaker but you would probably need help from an adult who knows a bit more about electronics.
 
At your age, I helped my son do a wind energy project (wind mill). DC motors are cheap, construction simple, and you could study things like prop number, pitch, motor selection, etc. On top of that, sounds like your dad would be a perfect match.
 
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...On top of that, sounds like your dad would be a perfect match.

But please please PLEASE be sure it's apparent that it's YOU reading the background material from appropriate sources, doing the designing of the project and construction, etc., because in my experience judging such fairs, there's nothing judges like LEAST than these two extremes: The projects that come straight from science fair projects lists/books for kids ... and science fair projects completely guided (and even done) by parents/guardians or other adults in a technical field.
 
So true. My son did all his own research, selected the dynamo, did the calculations, did the DVM measurements, made all his graphs, etc.. I filled in with some ideas about how to do a few things that he would have needed a machine shop to do otherwise. Since you will be working with electricity, doing soldering, etc., that’s where your dad will come into give advice and keep you safe. BTW, skip the "kits", as they are totally unnecessary. You need to know everything about your project, because they will ask you. Not only will they ask what you did, they will ask you why you didn't do X, Y, Z, or did you try ABC. Only by knowing the material will you be able to give a good answer. If you progress to State, they will expect you to be on your toes (i.e. real good handle on the work).
 
My stepdad isn't like that. He did a lot of science fairs when he was in high school.

I talked to my teacher about it today, and she said that the two things I listed, and the plasma speaker were too dangerous for me to just do (for regionals. Were doing a school wide one first, and the projects that don't suck are going to regionals.) And the time to get it checked out by the commitee just passed, so I actually thought somehow intertwining the telescope I just bought with it, and came up with something along the lines of measuring celestial objects by finding out the distance(google Earth or something.) and how big it is in my telescope. Then coming up with my own formula to get about how big it should be (surface area and vollume.) Then checking my answers to figure out whether my hypothesis was correct or not.

Now to see how big the image in my telescope is (not the actual object, the virtual one.) How can i do this? I can't just look in, then measure it, since my eye would be in the way, so could I do something like directing it at the object, then taking a photo of it, then using the measurements on the photo in the actual formula?

Sorry if this is hard to understand, i'll talk to my stepdad about it.
 
I need some help with something.
So let's say that we have an object.
In my x80 telescope, it looks like it's 5CM (lets say that.) So the area is going to be 15.7

Let's say it's 1 lightyear away. I need some help coming up with a formula (or something) to find out it's area if it were right in front of me. I don't want you guys to tell me it, I just want help figuring it out.

Would it be helpful if I found how big it would look from Earth without a telescope (.19625 CM)

Can you guys point me in the right direction or give me some tips?

Edit: I think I found it. Is there any way to use a circles diameter in CM to find its angular diameter (degrees)?
 
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