What Sets Delta-Complexes Apart from Simplicial Complexes?

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The discussion focuses on the differences between delta-complexes and simplicial complexes, exploring their definitions, properties, and implications in topology. Participants examine how these structures are constructed and the restrictions that apply to simplicial complexes compared to delta-complexes.

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  • One participant notes that simplicial complexes are defined by their vertices and the specification of which vertices form a simplex, leading to a topological space through gluing.
  • Another participant explains that simplicial complexes require simplices to intersect in a common face or not at all, while delta complexes do not have this restriction, resulting in typically fewer triangles in delta-triangulations.
  • A specific example is provided where the minimal delta-triangulation of the 2-torus has fewer triangles compared to a simplicial triangulation, illustrating the computational ease associated with delta complexes.
  • A participant describes the standard n-simplex and how maps from delta-complexes can lead to vertex overlaps, which would violate the conditions for simplicial complexes.

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Participants generally agree on the definitions and properties of delta-complexes and simplicial complexes, but there are nuances in the explanations that may reflect differing interpretations or levels of understanding.

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Some assumptions about the definitions of simplicial and delta complexes may not be fully articulated, and the discussion does not resolve the complexities of triangulations in various contexts.

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What is the difference between a delta-complex and a simplicial complex? Hatcher's book says that simplicial complexes are uniquely determined by their vertices. Could someone clarify this? Thanks.
 
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Well, a simplicial complex can be specified as a set of vertices, together with the specification of which vertices are to make up a simplex. From this raw data, one can then construct a topological space by gluing simplices accordingly. If there is a homeomorphism btw this space and a space X, this is called a triangulation of X.

The main difference btw simplicial and delta complexes is that in simplicial complexes, there is the restriction that two simplices must intersect in a common face (or not at all), whereas delta complexes do not have this restriction. So a delta-triangulation on a space X will typically have less triangles than a triangulation, and is so it is easier to find one, and computations (such as the Euler characteristic or the homology) are easier to perform.

For instance, the minimal delta-triangulation on the 2-torus has only 2 2-triangles, 3 1-triangles, and 1 0-triangle. The minimal "simplicial triangulation" of the torus has... well, I don't know, but the most obvious (to me) triangulation of the 2-torus has 18 2-triangles alone. (http://rip94550.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/triangulation-18.png)
 
Hi ForMyThunder! :smile:

The standard n-simplex has vertices (1,0,0,...,0),(0,1,0,...,0),...,(0,0,0,...,1). Now, given a map \sigma:\Delta^n\rightarrow X of our Delta-complex, then we can call

\sigma (1,0,0,...,0),~\sigma (0,1,0,...,0),...,\sigma (0,0,0,...,1)

are the vertices of these maps. A simplicial complex is such that no two maps \sigma_\alpha and \beta have the same set of vertices!

For example, consider the square [0,1]x[0,1]. Then the points (0,0),(1,0) and (0,1) form a triangle which is homeomorphic to \Delta^2, so take that as a first map. The points (1,0),(0,1) and (1,1) also determine a map. Continuing further gives us a simplicial complex, because every collection of points belongs to at most 1 map.

However, if we would take another map from \Delta^2 to the triangle (0,0), (1,0), (0,1) and adjoing it to our complex, then there would be two maps with vertices (0,0), (1,0) and (0,1). This would not form a simplicial complex.

Hope that helped!
 
Thanks! I understand now.
 

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